Re: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?

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Hey Susan, and all Loan Rule contestants,
Looks like your Loan Rule count of 603 is the winner--or loser, depending on how much you enjoy blindingly complex tables.

The Marmot Library Network of 20 institutions has "only" 355 Loan Rules, but our 2017 lines in the Loan Rule Determiner Table easily outnumber your 682.

I'd love to know whether any consortium out there has successfully mounted a loan rule simplification campaign.

You could say, "don't fix what ain't broke," but in my humble view anything this complex is so vulnerable it's already broken.
-jimmy


Jimmy Thomas, Executive Director
Marmot Library Network
970-242-3331 x119
www.marmot.org

On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Susan Saul wrote:

> The Minuteman consortium central office is the only user authorized to maintain the Loan rules and Loan rule determiner table.
>
> We offer the libraries a web form on which they can request a new rule (or a change to an existing rule).
> We usually find that there needs to be a consultation around a change or new rule. A reference interview, so to speak.
>
> Except for 10 - 12 Network-wide rules, each library has up to 20 of its own rules.
>
> This way if library a wants to change the number of days on the Holdshelf, or the number of renewals, for example, that doesn't affect any other library.
>
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> ------------------------------------
> Susan F. Saul
> Head, User Services
> Minuteman Library Network
> (508) 655-8008 x226
> ssaul at minlib dot net
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Burden" <eburden at uafortsmith dot edu>
> To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 2:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?
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>
>> Wow! You've easily overtaken Brenda at ALIS.
>>
>> Do each of the branches take care of their own rules? Does one particular entity monitor the entire set of rules & the rule determiner?
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for sharing your numbers. It has been very illuminating.
>>
>> Elizabeth Burden
>> Access Services Librarian
>> Boreham Library
>> University of Arkansas-Fort Smith
>> (479)788-7245
>> eburden at uafortsmith dot edu
>> http://www.facebook.com/borehamlibrary
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Susan Saul
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:10 PM
>> To: IUG INNOPAC List
>> Subject: Re: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?
>>
>> Minuteman Library Network is a consortium of 43 libraries.
>>
>> We have 603 Loan Rules
>> Of these, about 10 are network-wide; the rest are allotted to the
>> individual member libraries
>> Originally we allocated 11 rules per library but it soon became apparent
>> that they wanted/needed more, so now each can have a maximum of 20 rules.
>>
>> We have 682 entries in the Loan Rule Determiner table.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Susan F. Saul
>> Head, User Services
>> Minuteman Library Network
>> (508) 655-8008 x226
>> ssaul at minlib dot net
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "BRENDA" <brenda at alisnet dot info>
>> To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 11:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?
>>
>>
>>> ALIS has 481 Loan rules, and 1,089 lines in the loan rule determiner
>>> table.
>>>
>>>
>>> We are a public library consortium with 54 locations plus the central site
>>> service center.
>>>
>>> Terrifying, no?
>>>
>>> Brenda Giovanneillo
>>> ALIS
>>> Long Island, NY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On February 16, 2011 at 11:27 AM Laurie Shedrick <lshedrick at midhudson dot org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 247 We are a consortia of 66 libraries. A committee must now approve
>>>> additional rules as we are trying to consolidate.
>>>>
>>>> Laurie J. Shedrick
>>>> Automated Systems Manager
>>>> Mid-Hudson Library System
>>>> 103 Market Street
>>>> Poughkeepsie, NY 12601
>>>> lshedrick at midhudson dot org
>>>> (845) 471-6060 X 221
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org
>>>> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Carolyn Sautter
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 10:35 AM
>>>> To: IUG INNOPAC List
>>>> Subject: Re: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Here at Gettysburg College we have 88 active and 17 inactive loan rules.
>>>>
>>>> All the best,
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn
>>>>
>>>> Carolyn Sautter
>>>> Cataloging and Metadata Librarian
>>>> Musselman Library
>>>> Gettysburg College
>>>> 300 N. Washington St.
>>>> Box 420
>>>> Gettysburg, PA 17325
>>>> (717) 337-7002 phone
>>>> (717) 337-7001 fax
>>>> csautter at gettysburg dot edu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org
>>>> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
>>>> Burden
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:07 PM
>>>> To: innopac at innovativeusers dot org
>>>> Subject: [IUG] how many loan rules do you have?
>>>>
>>>> I'm curious about how many loan rules other libraries have. I realize it
>>>> could vary widely, but it would still be interesting to know. We try to
>>>> keep the number as minimal as possible and currently have 20. Other
>>>> schools
>>>> with branches and a greater variety of materials in their collections
>>>> will
>>>> surely have more.
>>>>
>>>> So, how many loan rules do you have?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Elizabeth Burden
>>>> Access Services Librarian
>>>> Boreham Library
>>>> University of Arkansas-Fort Smith
>>>> (479)788-7245
>>>> eburden at uafortsmith dot edu<ewright at uafortsmith dot edu>
>>>> http://www.facebook.com/borehamlibrary
>>>>
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