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Hello All,

I am Melinda Townsel. I will not attend the 2010 conference as planned. I
am the Circulation Facilitator at Austin Community College in Austin,
Texas. I was really looking forward to networking with other Circulation
Services librarians. In the absence of that, I am using this listserv to
connect with everyone in Circulation Access especially those employed at
community and 2-year colleges.

I am going to ask a big favor. If I had attended IUG this year then I would
have came as a newbie to the conference. I am gearing myself up for 2011.
In the meanwhile, I was wondering if anyone would be willing to share their
conference experiences with me.

I would be grateful for any information about the workshops and information
about what to expect when I attend IUG next year. I would love to get
information about anything related to circulation and access services, also
Reserves Module. Does a listserv exist just for librarians in circulation
and access services? If so, I would love learn more about it.

You can contact me at mtownsel at austincc dot edu dot My extension is 512.223.4741.


Have a great conference and Thanks in advance!!

Melinda

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> 1. Closed days treated like any other day in calculating # of
> days before notice? (Phil Shirley)
> 2. Is thee a way to set up beeps/notification of the shortened
> loan period being used (Bryan McCabe)
> 3. Re: Courtesy Notice Glitch (Roman Koshykar)
> 4. Re: Courtesy Notice Glitch (Grybko, Tamara R.)
> 5. Re: Firewall and III problems (Judith A Schneider)
> 6. Re: Closed days treated like any other day in calculating #
> of days before notice? (Riggle, Keven)
> 7. Re: Closed days treated like any other day in calculating #
> of days before notice? (Phil Shirley)
> 8. display of hitlist in cataloging (Charlotte Moncrief)
> 9. new item status code (Meeghan Rosen)
> 10. Re: new item status code (Janet Schrader)
> 11. Re: new item status code (David Ruml)
> 12. Re: Closed days treated like any other day in calculating #
> of days before notice? (Riggle, Keven)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:10:59 -0400
> From: Phil Shirley <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary dot org>
> Subject: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in calculating #
> of days before notice?
> To: IUG INNOPAC List <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Message-ID: <4BBA27B3 dot 4020003 at cuyahogafallslibrary dot org>
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> When calculating the date to send an overdue notice, are closed days
> treated like any other day? I think the answer is yes, based on the
> behavior of our system and the fact that the manual doesn't mention
> notices in the list of things that are affected by closed days, but I
> saw someone say differently in an old list post so I thought I'd check.
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> The issue is that on our 3-day loans (all our movies), we want to send a
> notice (via Teleforms or email) soon after the due date because the
> fines are $0.50 per day, so we send the first notice 2 days after the
> due date. Normally this is fine if you return your items on time,
> because if something that's due on Monday is returned as late as
> possible (in the book drop before we open Tuesday morning), we check it
> in Tuesday and when the notices are generated early Wednesday morning
> for 3-day loans that were due on Monday, the item that was returned in
> the book drop Monday night does not generate a notice. However, if the
> Tuesday in this example is a closed day (thus we don't check things in
> that day), a notice will be generated on Wednesday even if the item was
> returned on time (and some patrons will complain).
>
> I think our only options are to live with this situation or set the
> first notice for this loan rule to always be sent one day later than it
> is now - right? Fortunately, we're closed only 9 days per year.
>
> Phil
> --
>
> Phil Shirley
> Technology Services Coordinator
> Cuyahoga Falls Library
> Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
> 330-928-2117, ext. 109
> pshirley at CuyahogaFallsLibrary dot org
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 12:25:46 -0600
> From: "Bryan McCabe" <b dot mccabe at saskatoonlibrary dot ca>
> Subject: [IUG] Is thee a way to set up beeps/notification of the
> shortened loan period being used
> To: <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> We have the shortened loan period if the item has more than 5 holds and are
> looking for a way to notify the staff at checkout , so the patron can be
> made aware of it, because this is new to our patron's.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
>
> Bryan McCabe
>
> IT Systems Administrator
>
> Saskatoon Public Library
>
> 311 23rd ST E
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> Saskatoon,SK
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> 306 975-8136
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 14:46:40 -0400
> From: Roman Koshykar <rgkwml at rit dot edu>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Courtesy Notice Glitch
> To: IUG INNOPAC List <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> Take a look at the relevant loan rules - there is a loan rule element (Time
> Remaining B4 Renew) that controls how soon before the due date the item can
> be renewed. It's possible that your Time Remaining B4 Renew is set to 2
> days, while the courtesy notice (loan rule element is Number of Days Before
> ODue) goes out 3 days before the due date.
>
> I hope this helps - I'm a relatively new Innovative site coordinator and
> this is my first post to the list!
>
>
> Roman Koshykar
> Library Liaison to GCCIS/Library Systems Support Specialist
> Rochester Institute of Technology
> The Wallace Center 05-1420
> 90 Lomb Memorial Drive
> Rochester, New York 14623
> 585-475-2238
> rgkwml at rit dot edu
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:
> innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Poquette, Tammy
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:08 PM
> To: 'innopac at innopacusers dot org'
> Subject: [IUG] Courtesy Notice Glitch
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> We send out our courtesy notice three days before the item is due. It
> instructs the patron on how to renew the books. We have gotten several
> complaints that the patron gets a message "too soon to renew." I usually go
> into the patron's account, the next day, and can renew the books. Just
> wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Tammy (Miller) Poquette
>
> Tammy M. Poquette
> Manager, Circulation Services
> Champlain College Library
> Burlington, VT 05401
> Phone: (802) 865-6489
> Email: tpoquette at champlain dot edu
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 12:48:11 -0600
> From: "Grybko, Tamara R." <tgrybko at cabq dot gov>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Courtesy Notice Glitch
> To: <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> Hi Tammy -
>
> Have you already checked the "Time Remaining B4 Renew" field in the Loan
> Rules (Under Admin > Parameters > Circulation)? If that is set to 3 (or
> fewer) for any of your loan rules, it would conflict with the
> information in your courtesy notices.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
>
> Tamara Grybko
> Customer Service Office
> Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Library System
> 501 Copper Ave NW
> Albuquerque, NM 87102
> (505)768-5170
> tgrybko at cabq dot gov
> www.cabq.gov/library
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> -----Original Message-----
>
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 13:08:18 -0400
> From: "Poquette, Tammy" <tpoquette at champlain dot edu>
> Subject: [IUG] Courtesy Notice Glitch
> To: "'innopac at innopacusers dot org'" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
> Message-ID:
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> <6E6944FEB634AC48B241A53AE989A402870153DD49 at MAILBOX dot champlain dot edu>
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> Hello Everyone,
>
> We send out our courtesy notice three days before the item is due. It
> instructs the patron on how to renew the books. We have gotten several
> complaints that the patron gets a message "too soon to renew." I
> usually go into the patron's account, the next day, and can renew the
> books. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Tammy (Miller) Poquette
>
> Tammy M. Poquette
> Manager, Circulation Services
> Champlain College Library
> Burlington, VT 05401
> Phone: (802) 865-6489
> Email: tpoquette at champlain dot edu
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:16:18 -0400
> From: "Judith A Schneider" <SchneiderJ at gao dot gov>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Firewall and III problems
> To: <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Message-ID: <4BB9FEC1 dot 2E9E dot 0088 dot 0 at GAO dot GOV>
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>
> Doesn't everything that goes out through your firewall pick up the IP from
> the firewall? We have a really strict, tight firewall, and all of our
> services that are based on IP recognition use the IP from the firewall, not
> the internal server.
>
> Can't answer the NAT question, don' know nuthin' 'bout that. 8)
>
> Hope this isn't a really stupid question. 8)
>
> --
>
> Judy Schneider
> US GAO Library
> schneiderj at gao dot gov
> (202) 512-4304
> My opinions are mine! All Mine!
>
> So many books .... So little time
>
> On 4/5/2010 at 1:32 PM, Lindsay McVey <lmcvey at wscc dot edu> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've looked through the archives and I can't really find anything that
> > address my problem so I wondered if I could ask for advice?
> > We have recently moved our III server from an external IP to an internal
> > 10.10.x.x IP and brought it inside the firewall. Prior to this, our
> server
> > was located on an external IP outside of the firewall. And it worked
> fine.
> > :)
> > We worked with III and changed the IP, moved it inside, and we're using
> NAT
> > to send it out through an external IP. Inbound traffic is coming in on
> our
> > external ip 205.x.x.x and is translated to the internal 10.10.x.x just
> fine.
> > But, here is the problem. For some reason, all outbound traffic gets
> > translated up to our firewall external IP and *not* the external IP we've
> > set up with NAT. We've seemingly tried everything. We've even assigned
> the
> > server it's own port on our firewall. We are about two steps away from
> > throwing it back outside... but I wanted to see if anyone else has any
> > experience with this. Sonicwall is our firewall. Standard one-to-one NAT
> > from and external to an internal IP.
> > Thanks in advance. Email me off list if you'd prefer.
> > Lindsay
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:36:53 +0000
> From: "Riggle, Keven" <keven dot riggle at marquette dot edu>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in
> calculating # of days before notice?
> To: "'IUG INNOPAC List'" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Message-ID:
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> Phil,
>
> Since you are only closed 9 days a year would it be feasible to empty the
> book return following a "closed" day and batch check in the items using the
> "backdate" function?
>
> Keven
>
> Keven Riggle
> Systems Librarian
> Raynor Memorial Libraries
> Marquette University
> 1355 W Wisconsin Ave
> PO Box 3141
> Milwaukee, WI 53201-3141
>
> Phone: (414) 288-3253
> E-mail: keven dot riggle at marquette dot edu
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:
> innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:11 PM
> To: IUG INNOPAC List
> Subject: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in calculating # of
> days before notice?
>
> When calculating the date to send an overdue notice, are closed days
> treated like any other day? I think the answer is yes, based on the
> behavior of our system and the fact that the manual doesn't mention
> notices in the list of things that are affected by closed days, but I
> saw someone say differently in an old list post so I thought I'd check.
> Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> The issue is that on our 3-day loans (all our movies), we want to send a
> notice (via Teleforms or email) soon after the due date because the
> fines are $0.50 per day, so we send the first notice 2 days after the
> due date. Normally this is fine if you return your items on time,
> because if something that's due on Monday is returned as late as
> possible (in the book drop before we open Tuesday morning), we check it
> in Tuesday and when the notices are generated early Wednesday morning
> for 3-day loans that were due on Monday, the item that was returned in
> the book drop Monday night does not generate a notice. However, if the
> Tuesday in this example is a closed day (thus we don't check things in
> that day), a notice will be generated on Wednesday even if the item was
> returned on time (and some patrons will complain).
>
> I think our only options are to live with this situation or set the
> first notice for this loan rule to always be sent one day later than it
> is now - right? Fortunately, we're closed only 9 days per year.
>
> Phil
> --
>
> Phil Shirley
> Technology Services Coordinator
> Cuyahoga Falls Library
> Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
> 330-928-2117, ext. 109
> pshirley at CuyahogaFallsLibrary dot org
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 15:48:39 -0400
> From: Phil Shirley <pshirley at cuyahogafallslibrary dot org>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in
> calculating # of days before notice?
> To: IUG INNOPAC List <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Message-ID: <4BBA3E97 dot 5010707 at cuyahogafallslibrary dot org>
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> Keven,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I should have explained: We do use the
> backdate function for book drop items, but the overdue notice is
> generated before we start checking in the book drop. Our notices are
> generated at 6 a.m., so in the example where an item is due Monday, and
> we're closed Tuesday, and the notice goes out Wednesday, the notice for
> the item due Monday is generated Wednesday at 6 a.m., a couple of hours
> before we start checking in the book drop. (If I understand right, the
> notices have to be generated before we start work.) Most of the time
> this works perfectly as the first day to send a notice after we're sure
> that the item was not returned on time, but of course not when the date
> due is before a closed day.
>
> Phil
>
> Riggle, Keven wrote:
> > Phil,
> >
> > Since you are only closed 9 days a year would it be feasible to empty the
> book return following a "closed" day and batch check in the items using the
> "backdate" function?
> >
> > Keven
> >
> > Keven Riggle
> > Systems Librarian
> > Raynor Memorial Libraries
> > Marquette University
> > 1355 W Wisconsin Ave
> > PO Box 3141
> > Milwaukee, WI 53201-3141
> >
> > Phone: (414) 288-3253
> > E-mail: keven dot riggle at marquette dot edu
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:
> innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:11 PM
> > To: IUG INNOPAC List
> > Subject: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in calculating # of
> days before notice?
> >
> > When calculating the date to send an overdue notice, are closed days
> > treated like any other day? I think the answer is yes, based on the
> > behavior of our system and the fact that the manual doesn't mention
> > notices in the list of things that are affected by closed days, but I
> > saw someone say differently in an old list post so I thought I'd check.
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> >
> > The issue is that on our 3-day loans (all our movies), we want to send a
> > notice (via Teleforms or email) soon after the due date because the
> > fines are $0.50 per day, so we send the first notice 2 days after the
> > due date. Normally this is fine if you return your items on time,
> > because if something that's due on Monday is returned as late as
> > possible (in the book drop before we open Tuesday morning), we check it
> > in Tuesday and when the notices are generated early Wednesday morning
> > for 3-day loans that were due on Monday, the item that was returned in
> > the book drop Monday night does not generate a notice. However, if the
> > Tuesday in this example is a closed day (thus we don't check things in
> > that day), a notice will be generated on Wednesday even if the item was
> > returned on time (and some patrons will complain).
> >
> > I think our only options are to live with this situation or set the
> > first notice for this loan rule to always be sent one day later than it
> > is now - right? Fortunately, we're closed only 9 days per year.
> >
> > Phil
>
> --
>
> Phil Shirley
> Technology Services Coordinator
> Cuyahoga Falls Library
> Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
> 330-928-2117, ext. 109
> pshirley at CuyahogaFallsLibrary dot org
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 14:55:42 -0500
> From: "Charlotte Moncrief" <charlotte at lmn dot lib dot al dot us>
> Subject: [IUG] display of hitlist in cataloging
> To: "'IUG INNOPAC List'" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
> Message-ID: <003201cad4f9$f942f2e0$ebc8d8a0$ at lib dot al dot us>
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> IUG,
>
> Why is it that sometimes the name authority record is under the name
> heading
> and other times it is listed separately?
>
>
>
> Examples:
>
> Metzger Linda -- >Authority Record 2
>
> ? -- >Authority Record
>
> ? Black writers : a selection of sketches from contemporary authors .
> Northeast
>
> ~~~~~~
>
> Metzger Daniel L 1943 -- > Authority Record 1
>
> Metzger Daniel L 1943 1
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Charlotte Moncrief, MLS
>
> Library Management Network, Inc.
>
> 2132 6th Avenue SE, Suite 106
>
> Decatur, AL 35601
>
> 256-308-2529 x10
>
> http://www.lmn.lib.al.us
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:19:30 -0400
> From: Meeghan Rosen <mrosen at townofchapelhill dot org>
> Subject: [IUG] new item status code
> To: "innopac at innovativeusers dot org" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> I am trying to add a new status to the fixed-length item status code table.
> Have never done it before. I have no trouble adding a row to the table and
> keying in a new one-letter character and its meaning. But after I save this
> change and put the new code into use in an item record, only the
> single-character displays in the catalog display, not the meaning. All
> existing codes in the table show our definitions, not the codes. Am I
> leaving out a step? Help?
>
> [cid:image001.gif@01CAD4DB.418A27E0]
>
> Meeghan Rosen
> Acquisitions Librarian
> Chapel Hill Public Library
> Town of Chapel Hill<http://www.townofchapelhill.org/>
> 100 Library Drive
> Chapel Hill, NC 27514
> (919) 969-2046
> Fax: (919) 968-2838
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> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 16:32:31 -0400
> From: "Janet Schrader" <jschrader at cwmars dot org>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] new item status code
> To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> There are some codes you can enter in the table but you need to contact
> Innovative to have them set up the label to display. Format is one of
> these, perhaps status is also.
>
>
>
> Janet Schrader
> Bibliographic Services Supervisor
> C/W MARS Inc.
> 67 Millbrook Street, Suite 201
> Worcester, MA 01606
> 508-755-3323 ext. 25
> fax: 508-757-7801
> jschrader at cwmars dot org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Meeghan Rosen
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 4:20 PM
> To: innopac at innovativeusers dot org
> Subject: [IUG] new item status code
>
> I am trying to add a new status to the fixed-length item status code
> table. Have never done it before. I have no trouble adding a row to
> the table and keying in a new one-letter character and its meaning. But
> after I save this change and put the new code into use in an item
> record, only the single-character displays in the catalog display, not
> the meaning. All existing codes in the table show our definitions, not
> the codes. Am I leaving out a step? Help?
>
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> Meeghan Rosen
> Acquisitions Librarian
> Chapel Hill Public Library
> Town of Chapel Hill<http://www.townofchapelhill.org/>
> 100 Library Drive
> Chapel Hill, NC 27514
> (919) 969-2046
> Fax: (919) 968-2838
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 15:32:35 -0500
> From: "David Ruml" <David dot Ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] new item status code
> To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> DAVID E. RUML
> Carrollton Public Library
> CARROLLTON, TEXAS
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Meeghan Rosen
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 3:20 PM
> To: innopac at innovativeusers dot org
> Subject: [IUG] new item status code
>
> I am trying to add a new status to the fixed-length item status code
> table. Have never done it before. I have no trouble adding a row to
> the table and keying in a new one-letter character and its meaning. But
> after I save this change and put the new code into use in an item
> record, only the single-character displays in the catalog display, not
> the meaning. All existing codes in the table show our definitions, not
> the codes. Am I leaving out a step? Help?
>
> [cid:image001.gif@01CAD4DB.418A27E0]
>
> Meeghan Rosen
> Acquisitions Librarian
> Chapel Hill Public Library
> Town of Chapel Hill<http://www.townofchapelhill.org/>
> 100 Library Drive
> Chapel Hill, NC 27514
> (919) 969-2046
> Fax: (919) 968-2838
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 20:33:21 +0000
> From: "Riggle, Keven" <keven dot riggle at marquette dot edu>
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in
> calculating # of days before notice?
> To: "'IUG INNOPAC List'" <innopac at innovativeusers dot org>
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> Phil,
>
> I should have realized that. Our notices are queued just after 4 a.m.
>
> Keven
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:
> innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley
> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:49 PM
> To: IUG INNOPAC List
> Subject: Re: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in calculating #
> of days before notice?
>
> Keven,
>
> Thanks for the suggestion. I should have explained: We do use the
> backdate function for book drop items, but the overdue notice is
> generated before we start checking in the book drop. Our notices are
> generated at 6 a.m., so in the example where an item is due Monday, and
> we're closed Tuesday, and the notice goes out Wednesday, the notice for
> the item due Monday is generated Wednesday at 6 a.m., a couple of hours
> before we start checking in the book drop. (If I understand right, the
> notices have to be generated before we start work.) Most of the time
> this works perfectly as the first day to send a notice after we're sure
> that the item was not returned on time, but of course not when the date
> due is before a closed day.
>
> Phil
>
> Riggle, Keven wrote:
> > Phil,
> >
> > Since you are only closed 9 days a year would it be feasible to empty the
> book return following a "closed" day and batch check in the items using the
> "backdate" function?
> >
> > Keven
> >
> > Keven Riggle
> > Systems Librarian
> > Raynor Memorial Libraries
> > Marquette University
> > 1355 W Wisconsin Ave
> > PO Box 3141
> > Milwaukee, WI 53201-3141
> >
> > Phone: (414) 288-3253
> > E-mail: keven dot riggle at marquette dot edu
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:
> innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of Phil Shirley
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 1:11 PM
> > To: IUG INNOPAC List
> > Subject: [IUG] Closed days treated like any other day in calculating # of
> days before notice?
> >
> > When calculating the date to send an overdue notice, are closed days
> > treated like any other day? I think the answer is yes, based on the
> > behavior of our system and the fact that the manual doesn't mention
> > notices in the list of things that are affected by closed days, but I
> > saw someone say differently in an old list post so I thought I'd check.
> > Thanks for any help you can give me.
> >
> > The issue is that on our 3-day loans (all our movies), we want to send a
> > notice (via Teleforms or email) soon after the due date because the
> > fines are $0.50 per day, so we send the first notice 2 days after the
> > due date. Normally this is fine if you return your items on time,
> > because if something that's due on Monday is returned as late as
> > possible (in the book drop before we open Tuesday morning), we check it
> > in Tuesday and when the notices are generated early Wednesday morning
> > for 3-day loans that were due on Monday, the item that was returned in
> > the book drop Monday night does not generate a notice. However, if the
> > Tuesday in this example is a closed day (thus we don't check things in
> > that day), a notice will be generated on Wednesday even if the item was
> > returned on time (and some patrons will complain).
> >
> > I think our only options are to live with this situation or set the
> > first notice for this loan rule to always be sent one day later than it
> > is now - right? Fortunately, we're closed only 9 days per year.
> >
> > Phil
>
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> Phil Shirley
> Technology Services Coordinator
> Cuyahoga Falls Library
> Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
> 330-928-2117, ext. 109
> pshirley at CuyahogaFallsLibrary dot org
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