Re: [IUG] WebPac not displaying diacritics in IE
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- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:44:56 -0800
- From: "Munson, Doris" <dmunson at ewu dot edu>
- Subject: Re: [IUG] WebPac not displaying diacritics in IE
Mike,
We encourage students to use Firefox because it seems to display records better than IE. My guess is that IE requires a character set but our IT tech hasn't been able to figure out which one it is.
Russian diacritics are not displaying. Look at
http://libsys.ewu.edu/search~S4?/Xboys+book+survival&searchscope=4&SORT=D/Xboys+book+survival&searchscope=4&SORT=D&SUBKEY=boys%20book%20survival/1%2C2%2C2%2CB/frameset&FF=Xboys+book+survival&searchscope=4&SORT=D&1%2C1%2C
Vietnamese is displaying. We seem to have fixed the Asian character problem. Look at
http://libsys.ewu.edu/search~S4?/X(**)&SORT=D&l=vie/X(**)&SORT=D&l=vie&SUBKEY=(**)/1%2C59%2C59%2CB/frameset&FF=X(**)&SORT=D&l=vie&5%2C5%2C
Millennium doesn't want to display any diacritics but I've opened a call with III about that issue.
Thanks for any help,
Doris
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From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of KREYCHE, MICHAEL
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 1:22 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: [IUG] WebPac not displaying diacritics in IE
David, based on recent experience, I beg to differ with you. We have not converted our database to Unicode storage, but we have just had our staging port switched to utf8 output while leaving port 80 alone.
My understanding is that import, export, storage, and display are separate issues as far as the character set being used is concerned. Appropriate conversions should happen at each step.
I have been doing some experimenting with different browsers and operating systems on the utf8 port and comparing the differences with the standard port. The most problematical characters are the diacritics used for Roman characters. Nothing is perfect, but the Safari on the iPhone (with the latest software update) is darn close. Next best is Firefox on Windows IF the Arial Unicode font is installed. The latest Firefox on Windows WITHOUT Arial Unicode is not quite as good and about the same as IE 7 and 8 with or without that font. Safari on OS X and Firefox on OS X and Ubuntu are a little worse, but installing additional fonts might make a difference.
The biggest surprise of all is that the ligatures used in Russian appear just fine with Firefox on Vista with Arial Unicode installed. This font supposedly has a long standing bug that causes the ligatures to be displayed to the sides rather than above the letters, and until now this has been my experience. And I have the same old version of the font, not an updated one. Perhaps it's using some other font for the ligatures. IE 8 in the same environment doesn't display the ligatures at all!
I have a page set up to make comparisons easily. I'd be interested in other people's experiences with these records (I haven't tried all the variations I can think of, and more on XP than other OSs). Some of the example records aren't the best, but they're the all I have so far. "p" is for production, "s" is for staging (utf8):
http://extra.lms.kent.edu/page/15380
Doris, can you tell us a little about your environment and provide links to some records?
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org [mailto:innopac-bounces at innovativeusers dot org] On Behalf Of David Jones
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 3:33 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: [IUG] WebPac not displaying diacritics in IE
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:53 PM, "Munson, Doris" <dmunson at ewu dot edu> wrote:
> The webpac is not displaying diacritics correctly in IE but Firefox. Is
> there some code I should add to a page somewhere?
Your WebPac is set to output UTF-8, but your database has not been converted to UTF-8 yet.
See the thread starting at:
http://innovativeusers.org/list/archives/2009/msg00893.html
HTH,
David
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