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- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 08:28:43 -0400
- From: "Sinnette, Jim" <sinnett2 at marshall dot edu>
- Subject: Re: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing consistently
Thanks Carolyn,
Like Eeva we are printing them last. All others are on auto send which go out at 5am each day and I send the Bill Notices manually when I get to work at 8am. We have advised iii help desk this and Tue we asked iii for an update. Haven't heard back yet as to a solution.
Jim
James E. Sinnette
Information System Technician
Drinko Library
Marshall University
One John Marshall Drive
Huntington, WV 25755-2060
304-696-2323
sinnett2 at marshall dot edu
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [Junk released by Allow List] Re: OCLC Connexion Overlay
(Teresa Saunders)
2. Millennium acquisitions: Getting multiple files from a
vendor by FTP (Bubrick, Marlene)
3. Finding order recs without pymts (Harriet Zook)
4. Re: INNOPAC Digest, Vol 55, Issue 3 (Paula Coulthard)
5. Re: Millennium acquisitions: Getting multiple files from a
vendorby FTP (Smith, Pamela J.)
6. Re: Millennium Billing Notices not clearing consistently
(Eeva Stierwalt)
7. Re: Finding order recs without pymts (bkropf at nypl dot org)
8. Re: Millennium Billing Notices not clearing consistently
(Eeva Stierwalt)
9. Labelqueue procedure missing (Fatout, Leslie P)
10. Job: Collection Development/Technical Services Manager
(Abramson, Alicia)
11. Re: Labelqueue procedure missing (Elizabeth Thomsen)
12. Re: Persistent record link format (Elizabeth Thomsen)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:03:36 -0400
From: Teresa Saunders <saunderst at wcsu dot edu>
Subject: Re: [IUG] [Junk released by Allow List] Re: OCLC Connexion
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When you set up connexion on that machine, was it installed for all users or just the one logged in?
Connexion tends to like to be shared for all users of a machine. We had to give most of our staff local admin priviledges after having troubles. Our systems people would log into admin, install it, then the staff using that machine had issues with Connexion until it was installed by the user with admin priviledges.
Teresa C. Saunders
Library Technician
Acquisitions & Cataloging
Ruth A. Haas Library
Western Connecticut State University
181 White Street
Danbury, CT 06810
(203) 837-9106
saunderst at wcsu dot edu
"Tyra Ealy"
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Thanks for the replies.
We are putting in the semicolon--I just forgot to put it in my post.
We have also tried putting a; at the end of the bib record number.
Even records saved to the online save file by another cataloger cannot be loaded by this particular computer/user.
Tyra
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This may not be the source of your problem, but according to our documentation you have to have a final semicolon at the end of the text
string:
*recs=b;bn=x;ov=.b12345678;
If the semicolon is the only problem, I'm not sure why it might have worked for you before and not now, but it may be worth testing. We're on the same software (except Mill 2006 1.3) and it's working for us.
Good luck.
Clay Workman
Tempe (Ariz.) Public Library
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Subject: [IUG] OCLC Connexion Overlay
Anyone who is using OCLC Connexion for downloading bib records, have you had this trouble?
Brand new PC, Windows XP, IE6.
Connexion 2.10.
.NET Framework 2.0
Millennium Release 2006, 1.1
JRE 1.42.08
We use a 949 text string to direct record overlay: 949 *recs=b;bn=mn;ov=.bxxxxxxx xxxxxx=the actual bib record number we want to overlay.
Bib records will not overlay.
Three PCs with the exact same software are working fine (older), one new PC is not.
We have experienced other problems with the older PCs and have had to stick with IE6 & JRE 1.42.08.
We have tried copying the connects.ini file from a good PC to the new PC.
We backed off .NET Framework from ver. 3.5 to ver. 2.0.
We have completely uninstalled Connexion (even manually deleted Registry entries), then reinstalled full version of Connexion.
We have a call open with OCLC, but so far no solution.
Tyra L. Ealy
Information Technology Manager
Warren-Trumbull County Public Library
444 Mahoning Ave. NW
Warren, OH 44483
Phone: 330-399-8807, ext. 140
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:13:28 -0700
From: "Bubrick, Marlene" <bubrickm at uchastings dot edu>
Subject: [IUG] Millennium acquisitions: Getting multiple files from a
vendor by FTP
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In "Transferring files using FTS" at page 106005 in the Release 2007 user manual, it states "You can select multiple files in the list by using the Shift and Ctrl keys". Has anyone been able to do this?
We've not been able to retrieve multiple files at one time.
Thanks for any help.
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Marlene Bubrick
Technical Services Librarian
U.C. Hastings College of the Law Library
200 McAllister Street
San Francisco, CA 94102-4978
415.565.4769
bubrickm at uchastings dot edu
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 12:33:44 -0700
From: "Harriet Zook" <hzook at pacific dot edu>
Subject: [IUG] Finding order recs without pymts
To: <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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I have a review file with 1856 orders records. I know that there are 664 records in that file that do not have any payments on them. (I did an export on the paid line). But I want just those 664 records in a review file. Does anyone know if there is a way to do that? Everything I've tried doesn't work. Thanks.
Harriet Zook
Catalog Librarian
Gordon D. Schaber Law Library
Pacific McGeorge School of Law
3282 Fifth Avenue
Sacramento CA 95817
916.739.7165
916.739.7273 (fax)
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:00:55 -0500
From: "Paula Coulthard" <paula dot coulthard at uni dot edu>
Subject: Re: [IUG] INNOPAC Digest, Vol 55, Issue 3
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mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Tyra Ealy
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:59 AM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: [IUG] OCLC Connexion Overlay
Anyone who is using OCLC Connexion for downloading bib records, have you had this trouble?
Brand new PC, Windows XP, IE6.
Connexion 2.10.
.NET Framework 2.0
Millennium Release 2006, 1.1
JRE 1.42.08
We use a 949 text string to direct record overlay: 949 *recs=b;bn=mn;ov=.bxxxxxxx xxxxxx=the actual bib record number we want to overlay.
Bib records will not overlay.
Three PCs with the exact same software are working fine (older), one new PC is not.
We have experienced other problems with the older PCs and have had to stick with IE6 & JRE 1.42.08.
We have tried copying the connects.ini file from a good PC to the new PC.
We backed off .NET Framework from ver. 3.5 to ver. 2.0.
We have completely uninstalled Connexion (even manually deleted Registry entries), then reinstalled full version of Connexion.
We have a call open with OCLC, but so far no solution.
Tyra L. Ealy
Information Technology Manager
Warren-Trumbull County Public Library
444 Mahoning Ave. NW
Warren, OH 44483
Phone: 330-399-8807, ext. 140
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When you export from OCLC, is the report screen coming up that shows your command line and gives information about the process? That should give you some insight as to what your Innovative system is doing with the record when it comes through. Is the overlay command recognized? Does it say the record is in use by the system? Can you send a screen print of the box? Since the record is exporting, I would say that the problem is NOT with the Connexion software, but rather in the command line or on the Innovative side.
Are you using a text string to input the command line then copying in the bib number to overlay? Try recreating the entire text string.
Paula Coulthard
Library Associate, Cataloging
Rod Library, UNI
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 14:07:07 -0600
From: "Smith, Pamela J." <PSmith at cabq dot gov>
Subject: Re: [IUG] Millennium acquisitions: Getting multiple files
from a vendorby FTP
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I can import multiple files from the vendor's server by depressing the ctrl key and highlighting as many as I want. You still have to process and load them separately though.
Pamela J. Smith
Technical Services Manager
Albuquerque/Bernalillo County Library System
501 Copper Avenue NW
Albuquerque, NM 87102
psmith at cabq dot gov
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Subject: [IUG] Millennium acquisitions: Getting multiple files from a vendorby FTP
In "Transferring files using FTS" at page 106005 in the Release 2007 user manual, it states "You can select multiple files in the list by using the Shift and Ctrl keys". Has anyone been able to do this?
We've not been able to retrieve multiple files at one time.
Thanks for any help.
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Technical Services Librarian
U.C. Hastings College of the Law Library
200 McAllister Street
San Francisco, CA 94102-4978
415.565.4769
bubrickm at uchastings dot edu
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:19:10 -0400
From: "Eeva Stierwalt" <eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca>
Subject: Re: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing
consistently
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Jim: Thanks so much for your reply! I'll open a new call re: this issue and see what happens! In the meantime, we're recording our every keystroke prior to preparing the bills to see if it is perhaps a different series of keystrokes/mouse clicks that causes the file not to clear... Thanks again and kind regards, Eeva
Eeva Stierwalt
Integrated Library System
Solutions Specialist
Information Technology
London Public Library
251 Dundas St.
London, ON Canada N6A 6H9
t 519.661.5100 ex 5156
f 519.663.9013
e eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca
>>> "Sinnette, Jim" <sinnett2 at marshall dot edu> 7/1/2008 8:47 AM >>>
We reported the same problem in April 2006 (MARSU 906327). We were advised that the problem had been sent to Software Engineering and we are still having the problem and have not gotten any feedback or update on a solution. We manually prepare and send Billing Notices deleting as many times as necessary. Our problem is identical to yours, sometimes it clears them all and other times it doesn't. We have not been able to identify any pattern as to when it works or doesn't work.
Jim
James E. Sinnette
Information System Technician
Drinko Library
Marshall University
One John Marshall Drive
Huntington, WV 25755-2060
304-696-2323
sinnett2 at marshall dot edu
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Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:38:42 -0400
From: "Eeva Stierwalt" <eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca>
Subject: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing consistently
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Good afternoon! We've got a very odd situation that we've been trouble-shooting for many months now. We're now on Release 2007 with no change. When we run the Billing Notices, print them and select to clear them, they don't always clear. This means that the next time we print them we get the last batch of bills also. Luckily, we've got one person doing this for all of our 16 branches, so she's able to remember the duplicates. This does NOT happen every time she clears, but seems to happen about every 4 times or so. Has anyone else had this problem with Notices not clearing? I had a call open with III months ago about it and they were unable to "replicate" it... Thanks for any help you might be able to offer! Kind regards, Eeva
Eeva Stierwalt
Integrated Library System
Solutions Specialist
Information Technology
London Public Library
251 Dundas St.
London, ON Canada N6A 6H9
t 519.661.5100 ex 5156
f 519.663.9013
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 16:20:10 -0400
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Subject: Re: [IUG] Finding order recs without pymts
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Harriet,
You can sort them by payment and then delete record #665 onwards. It's very easy to do in character-based using G to select which records to delete.
Blythe Kropf
Head, Serial Ordering
New York Public Library
tel. 212 930-0754
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I have a review file with 1856 orders records. I know that there are 664 records in that file that do not have any payments on them. (I did an export on the paid line). But I want just those 664 records in a review file. Does anyone know if there is a way to do that? Everything I've tried doesn't work. Thanks.
Harriet Zook
Catalog Librarian
Gordon D. Schaber Law Library
Pacific McGeorge School of Law
3282 Fifth Avenue
Sacramento CA 95817
916.739.7165
916.739.7273 (fax)
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:26:11 -0400
From: "Eeva Stierwalt" <eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca>
Subject: Re: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing
consistently
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Carolyn: Thanks so much! We ARE printing them as the last notice, though we don't do them right after the previous notice types are printed -- ie. there is often several hours in-between the printing...
We might consider playing around with the sequence and/or the timing to see if it does make a difference! Thanks again and kind regards, Eeva
Eeva Stierwalt
Integrated Library System
Solutions Specialist
Information Technology
London Public Library
251 Dundas St.
London, ON Canada N6A 6H9
t 519.661.5100 ex 5156
f 519.663.9013
e eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca
>>> "Carolyn Jones" <c dot jones at library dot uq dot edu dot au> 7/1/2008 5:50 PM >>>
We had this problem a year or so ago. The bills were the first notice we printed and we discovered that when we made them the last notice we printed, the problem went away.
Carolyn
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Manager, Access Services
Information Access Service
Duhig Building, Library
University of Queensland Phone: +61 7 3346 4369
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>bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Sinnette, Jim
>Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 10:48 PM
>To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
>Subject: Re: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing
consistently
>
>
>We reported the same problem in April 2006 (MARSU 906327). We were
advised
>that the problem had been sent to Software Engineering and we are
still having the
>problem and have not gotten any feedback or update on a solution. We
manually
>prepare and send Billing Notices deleting as many times as necessary.
Our
>problem is identical to yours, sometimes it clears them all and other
times it
>doesn't. We have not been able to identify any pattern as to when it
works or
>doesn't work.
>
>Jim
>
>James E. Sinnette
>Information System Technician
>Drinko Library
>Marshall University
>One John Marshall Drive
>Huntington, WV 25755-2060
>304-696-2323
>sinnett2 at marshall dot edu
>
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>Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:38:42 -0400
>From: "Eeva Stierwalt" <eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca>
>Subject: [IUG] Millennium Billing Notices not clearing consistently
>To: <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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>
>Good afternoon! We've got a very odd situation that we've been
trouble-shooting
>for many months now. We're now on Release 2007 with no change. When
we run
>the Billing Notices, print them and select to clear them, they don't
always clear. This
>means that the next time we print them we get the last batch of bills
also. Luckily,
>we've got one person doing this for all of our 16 branches, so she's
able to
>remember the duplicates. This does NOT happen every time she clears,
but seems
>to happen about every 4 times or so. Has anyone else had this problem
with
>Notices not clearing? I had a call open with III months ago about it
and they were
>unable to "replicate" it... Thanks for any help you might be able to
offer! Kind
>regards, Eeva
>
>
>Eeva Stierwalt
>Integrated Library System
>Solutions Specialist
>Information Technology
>London Public Library
>251 Dundas St.
>London, ON Canada N6A 6H9
>t 519.661.5100 ex 5156
>f 519.663.9013
>e eeva dot stierwalt at lpl dot london dot on dot ca
>
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:42:46 -0500
From: "Fatout, Leslie P" <lf01 at txstate dot edu>
Subject: [IUG] Labelqueue procedure missing
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Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the document that used to be at
http://www.noblenet.org/swapshop/lists/labelqueue.html?
Leslie Fatout
Library System Coordinator/Circulation Librarian Albert B. Alkek Library, Room 201 Texas State University-San Marcos San Marcos TX 78666
Phone: 512-245-3004 Fax: 512-245-3080
Email: lf01 at txstate dot edu
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 15:11:47 -0700
From: "Abramson, Alicia" <AAbramson at ci dot berkeley dot ca dot us>
Subject: [IUG] Job: Collection Development/Technical Services Manager
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Please excuse any duplication/cross-posting:
The Berkeley Public Library is looking for a Collection Development/Technical Services Manager:
Under the supervision of the Director and/or Deputy
Director, the Collection Development/Technical Services
Manager directs and coordinates the selection,
acquisitions, cataloging and processing of library materials
and oversees system-wide library collection
management. As a Library Manager the incumbent is a
member of the Library Director's Management Team
responsible for planning, budgeting, operations and
management of a staff of professional, technical and
support personnel in the Collection/Technical Services
division. In addition to supervisory and managerial
responsibilities, the incumbent maintains cooperative
vendor relationships.
Salary range: $82,140 to $98,988
Full job description and benefits info:
http://tinyurl.com/3pwp49
Online application:
http://tinyurl.com/5x8ynt
Application deadline: 5 pm PST, July 14, 2008
Alicia Abramson
Manager Library Information Technology
Berkeley Public Library
aabramson at ci dot berkeley dot ca dot us
510-981-6131
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2008 22:46:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Elizabeth Thomsen" <et at noblenet dot org>
Subject: Re: [IUG] Labelqueue procedure missing
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Here it is:
http://www.noblenet.org/swapshop/createlists/labelqueue/
> Does anyone know where I might find a copy of the document that used
> to be at
http://www.noblenet.org/swapshop/lists/labelqueue.html?
>
> Leslie Fatout
> Library System Coordinator/Circulation Librarian Albert B. Alkek
> Library, Room 201 Texas State University-San Marcos San Marcos TX
> 78666
> Phone: 512-245-3004 Fax: 512-245-3080
> Email: lf01 at txstate dot edu
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 07:50:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Elizabeth Thomsen" <et at noblenet dot org>
Subject: Re: [IUG] Persistent record link format
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We've always had a problem with the record number format because there wasn't any way to associate it with a particular scope or tell it to be unscoped, and it followed any scope previously set in a session. This can result in seeing the bib record with no items, which is a confusing.
Quoting an old list message on this: "I may start a search in the Entire Collection, and then change my scope to Marblehead for some particular search. Later, perhaps in a different tab, I may be looking at a NOBLE booklist with record number links. I click on one, and get directly to the right bib record, but no items, because the Marblehead library doesn't have any items.
This also happens when you follow the Public View link from Millennium clients. In these cases, the user often doesn't remember having been in a different scope in the browser session."
So we're glad to see the scopes added to the bib record number, because they are explicit and we can control them if we use them on booklists.
And it makes more sense that the permalink the user saves goes directly to the catalog view they were seeing when they saved it, scoped or unscoped.
We haven't moved to Release 2007 yet, but here's something we'd like to do with this newly scopable format of record number link. One of our biggest problems with the catalog has always been the inability to unscope a record. Suppose I do a search in the Salem State College scope and found a bib record, only to discover that the Salem State copy is long overdue.
I have no easy way to see if there are other items attached to that record.
What we'd really like is a link that says something like "See additional copies" and that only appears when there actually are other copies." But if we can't do that, we'd like to put the unscoped permalink on the bib record as a link, labeled "See all copies."
This means we'd need to take the permalink that the system generates, which might be this:
http://catalog.noblenet.org/record=b1059733~S32 and display it as this:
http://catalog.noblenet.org/record=b1059733~S50 (50 being our unscoped collection.
Has anyone done this? Is there some simpler solution that I'm missing, or some reason why this wouldn't work?
Elizabeth
>>>> On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:40 AM, "Kreymer, Oleg"
>>>> <Oleg dot Kreymer at metmuseum dot org>
> wrote:
>> Since upgrading to 2007, our persistent record links now include
>> scope
designation
>> This doesn't seem to make much sense.
>
> Just a guess, but I would assume it is related to the work in R2007 to
retain scope. See the note about half-way down in the WebPac enhancements
> list on CSDirect about scoping. If this weren't there and someone
clicked
> on the persistent link, they would break out of the scope they are
currently using.
>
> HTH,
> David
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
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University Library fax: 408-551-1805
Santa Clara University phone: 408-551-7167
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> Santa Clara CA 95053-0500
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