Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching

["Welch, Andrew" <AWelch at auroragov dot org>]

No, mine isn't any more database-intensive than a regular catalog
search. It's all javascript--no external database other than III--and
it's getting all of the information from the current page (rather than
an external source). It might load the "Refine your search" box a touch
slower than the rest of the page, but since the box and script are both
in the botlogo, all of the search results will load first. Mine isn't a
true faceted search (hence the reason for quotes in the email subject
line), but it's as close as I can come with a client-side-only script.

Does that answer your question?

Andrew Welch
Sr. Library Systems Technician
Aurora Public Library
Aurora, CO 80012
http://auroralibrary.org
 

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>Andrew,
> 
>Do you know whether true or not that "Faceted Search" is 
>database-intensive, and If server can barely keep up with 
>traffic, this package will make things worst?
> 
>Source:
>http://drupal.org/project/faceted_search
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>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Said Shafik Library Systems Manager Drexel University 
>Libraries Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: 
>215.895.2070 http://library.drexel.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:51:58 -0600> From: 
>AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: 
>> innopac at innopacusers dot org> Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword 
>> searching> > Not quite. Rather than Limit/Sort, which is technically 
>> used for index> searches, the analogy is an advanced keyword search 
>> that looks like:> > KEYWORD mountain climbing AND> SUBJECT 
>achievement 
>> motivation in women> > The more I look at it, the more 
>misleading "Or 
>> limit by subject" is,> because it really isn't limiting by subject 
>> *instead of* anything else,> but *in addition to*. I think 
>I'll change 
>> that wording to just "Subject> limits:"> > -Andrew> > Andrew Welch> 
>> Sr. Library Systems Technician> Aurora Public Library> Aurora, CO 
>> 80012> http://auroralibrary.org> > > >-----Original Message-----> 
>> >From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org > 
>> >[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of said shafik> 
>> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:37 PM> >To: IUG INNOPAC List> 
>> >Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching> >> >> > > > 
>> >So "Or 
>> limit by subject" means "Limit your search results by > >subject"? 
>> Like when we do Limit/Sort Results on OPAC?> >I took it as a new 
>> search but by Subject.> > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> 
>> >Said Shafik Library Systems Manager Drexel University > >Libraries 
>> Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: > >215.895.2070 
>> http://library.drexel.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> >> Date: 
>> Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:18:10 -0600> From: > >AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: 
>> innopac at innopacusers dot org> Subject: > >Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword 
>> searching> > Thanks for the > >feedback, Said. The script is 
>designed 
>> to stay within a > >keyword search. As I mentioned in the initial 
>> email, it's not > >possible to construct a limited URL for the other 
>> indexes. So > >"Or limit by subject" is doing just that: limiting 
>> whatever > >search you've currently got by one or more of 
>the subjects 
>> in > >that list. If it changed to a subject search, it would 
>be "Or > 
>> >search by subject" and I'd have to drop any existing > 
>> >format/language/location/publisher limits. Would "Subject > 
>>limits" 
>> be less misleading?> > Thanks again,> -Andrew> > > >Andrew 
>Welch> Sr. 
>> Library Systems Technician> Aurora Public > >Library> Aurora, CO 
>> 80012> http://auroralibrary.org> > > > >>-----Original Message-----> 
>> >From: > >innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org > > 
>> >>[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of said > 
>> >shafik> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:52 !> > PM> >To: 
>IUG INNOPAC 
>> List> >Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" > >keyword searching> >> >> > > 
>> >Hi Andrew,> > > >I just noticed > >that while it says:"Or limit by 
>> subject", when > >clicking on > >any of those "sujects" the results 
>> come as > >"keyword within > >titles" search results. It shows the 
>> following > >in the > >search box:mountain climbing and 
>d:(achievement 
>> > >motivation > >in women)> > > > > > > 
>> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >Said > >Shafik Library Systems 
>> Manager Drexel University > >Libraries > >Philadelphia, PA 
>19104-2875 
>> Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: > > >>215.895.2070 
>http://library.drexel.edu 
>> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 > 
>> >07:33:21 -0600> From: > >AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: > >> > 
>> >innopac at innovativeusers dot org> Subject: [IUG] "Faceted" 
>keyword > >> >> 
>> searching> > Just for fun on the Friday before IUG, I > 
>>thought I'd > 
>> >> throw this out> there for public > 
>>comment/criticism/consumption.> 
>> > > >> > > 
>> >>http://auroralibrary.org:2082/search/X?SEARCH=mountain+climbin> 
>> >g&search> >> sc> !> > ope=2&SORT=R> > Advanced search limits sit to 
>> the left of the > >> >> res ults display in a> "Refine your search" 
>> box. Choosing > >limits > >> constructs a new URL; deleting> limits 
>> (once > >they've been chosen) > >> deconstructs the URL. It also> > 
>> >screen-scrapes the subjects from the > >> first screen of > 
>>results 
>> and puts> them in an alphabetical > >list for use > >> > >as limits. 
>> The idea was to> integrate the Modify Search > >functions to 
>> >> keep 
>> the patron from having to> leave their > >results to go back 
>to a > >> 
>> search page.> > It's definitely > >not flawless at this point, the 
>> main > >> flaw being that it> > >may fail miserably in release 2007, 
>> depending on > >> how > >keyword URLs are> constructed. It 
>only works 
>> with keyword > >> > >searching, as the Limit/Sort> URLs for other 
>> indexes are > >constructed > >> 'behind the scenes'. The other> bugs 
>> are > >noted at the top of the .js > >> file (modX.js) and can be > 
>> >fixed> with some work.> > For > >anyone who has > >> time and > 
>> >feels inclined, I'd be grateful for any> feedback. I'd like > > >>> 
>> to use this in our live catalog, but !> > not if there are> major > 
>> >problems. > >> I know many of you > >have your own "gotcha" 
>searches 
>> that> you use to > >> test > >search functions and limits.> 
>> Thanks!> 
>> > Andrew Welch> Sr. > > >>> Library Systems Technician> 
>Aurora Public 
>> Library> Aurora, > >CO 80012> > >> http://auroralibrary.org> > --> 
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