Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching

[said shafik <saidshafik at hotmail dot com>]

Andrew,
 
Do you know whether true or not that "Faceted Search" is database-intensive, and If server can barely keep up with traffic, this package will make things worst?
 
Source:
http://drupal.org/project/faceted_search
  
 
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Said Shafik Library Systems Manager Drexel University Libraries Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: 215.895.2070 http://library.drexel.edu 
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> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:51:58 -0600> From: AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: innopac at innopacusers dot org> Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching> > Not quite. Rather than Limit/Sort, which is technically used for index> searches, the analogy is an advanced keyword search that looks like:> > KEYWORD mountain climbing AND> SUBJECT achievement motivation in women> > The more I look at it, the more misleading "Or limit by subject" is,> because it really isn't limiting by subject *instead of* anything else,> but *in addition to*. I think I'll change that wording to just "Subject> limits:"> > -Andrew> > Andrew Welch> Sr. Library Systems Technician> Aurora Public Library> Aurora, CO 80012> http://auroralibrary.org> > > >-----Original Message-----> >From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org > >[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of said shafik> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 1:37 PM> >To: IUG INNOPAC List> >Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching> >> >> > > > > >So "Or limit by subject" means "Limit your search results by > >subject"? Like when we do Limit/Sort Results on OPAC?> >I took it as a new search but by Subject.> > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >Said Shafik Library Systems Manager Drexel University > >Libraries Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: > >215.895.2070 http://library.drexel.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:18:10 -0600> From: > >AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: innopac at innopacusers dot org> Subject: > >Re: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword searching> > Thanks for the > >feedback, Said. The script is designed to stay within a > >keyword search. As I mentioned in the initial email, it's not > >possible to construct a limited URL for the other indexes. So > >"Or limit by subject" is doing just that: limiting whatever > >search you've currently got by one or more of the subjects in > >that list. If it changed to a subject search, it would be "Or > >search by subject" and I'd have to drop any existing > >format/language/location/publisher limits. Would "Subject > >limits" be less misleading?> > Thanks again,> -Andrew> > > >Andrew Welch> Sr. Library Systems Technician> Aurora Public > >Library> Aurora, CO 80012> http://auroralibrary.org> > > > >>-----Original Message-----> >From: > >innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org > > >>[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of said > >shafik> >Sent: Friday, April 25, 2008 12:52 !> > PM> >To: IUG INNOPAC List> >Subject: Re: [IUG] "Faceted" > >keyword searching> >> >> > > >Hi Andrew,> > > >I just noticed > >that while it says:"Or limit by subject", when > >clicking on > >any of those "sujects" the results come as > >"keyword within > >titles" search results. It shows the following > >in the > >search box:mountain climbing and d:(achievement > >motivation > >in women)> > > > > > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >Said > >Shafik Library Systems Manager Drexel University > >Libraries > >Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Phone: 215.895.1832 Fax: > > >>215.895.2070 http://library.drexel.edu > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 > >07:33:21 -0600> From: > >AWelch at auroragov dot org> To: > >> > >innopac at innovativeusers dot org> Subject: [IUG] "Faceted" keyword > >> >> searching> > Just for fun on the Friday before IUG, I > >thought I'd > >> throw this out> there for public > >comment/criticism/consumption.> > > >> > > >>http://auroralibrary.org:2082/search/X?SEARCH=mountain+climbin> >g&search> >> sc> !> > ope=2&SORT=R> > Advanced search limits sit to the left of the > >> >> res ults display in a> "Refine your search" box. Choosing > >limits > >> constructs a new URL; deleting> limits (once > >they've been chosen) > >> deconstructs the URL. It also> > >screen-scrapes the subjects from the > >> first screen of > >results and puts> them in an alphabetical > >list for use > >> > >as limits. The idea was to> integrate the Modify Search > >functions to > >> keep the patron from having to> leave their > >results to go back to a > >> search page.> > It's definitely > >not flawless at this point, the main > >> flaw being that it> > >may fail miserably in release 2007, depending on > >> how > >keyword URLs are> constructed. It only works with keyword > >> > >searching, as the Limit/Sort> URLs for other indexes are > >constructed > >> 'behind the scenes'. The other> bugs are > >noted at the top of the .js > >> file (modX.js) and can be > >fixed> with some work.> > For > >anyone who has > >> time and > >feels inclined, I'd be grateful for any> feedback. I'd like > > >>> to use this in our live catalog, but !> > not if there are> major > >problems. > >> I know many of you > >have your own "gotcha" searches that> you use to > >> test > >search functions and limits.> > Thanks!> > Andrew Welch> Sr. > > >>> Library Systems Technician> Aurora Public Library> Aurora, > >CO 80012> > >> http://auroralibrary.org> > --> This message > >was distributed through > >> the Innovative Users Group > >INNOPAC list> Public replies: > >> INNOPAC at innopacusers dot org> > >Update your subscription options: > >> > >http://innopacusers.org/mailman/listinfo/innopac> > >>______________________________________________________________> >___> >Make i'm yours. 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