Re: [IUG] WebOPAC Refinements

["Riesner, Giles" <GRIESNER at ccbcmd dot edu>]

Thank you Andrew.  Your response gave me just the kind of information I
was
looking for.

I understand now what's happening and where it comes from and maybe we
will
put in an enhancement request or two. It would be useful functionality.

Frankly hiding the message and only showing it when the Author search
appears
or placing it in the search field (which sounds even better to me) are
definitely
better solutions. I would be interested in how to make the latter happen
and
will be in touch if I have any questions.

Thanks again,

Giles

Giles W. Riesner Jr. 
Library Tech Support & Library System Manager
Community College of Baltimore Co.- Catonsville
800 S. Rolling Road
Baltimore, MD 21228  USA
Phone: 1-410-455-4245
Email:  griesner at ccbcmd dot edu



-----Original Message-----
From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Welch, Andrew
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:12 AM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: [IUG] WebOPAC Refinements

Not sure if you received a response to this.

There's nothing intelligent going on behind the firstname lastname swap.
The system just takes two words, reverses their order and separates them
with a comma. If you search for "cheesy fries" in the author field, the
system will kindly ask if you want "fries, cheesy" -- no consultation of
your author index is taking place. This little script seems to ignore
any search values that are not two words, even if the words are valid
author terms. So the inclusion of a middle initial aborts the script and
no reveral is suggested. I'm afraid this smacks of an enhancement
request, although it might be worth a helpdesk call first.

As far as I know, the swap only occurs for Author searches (hence, no
reversal of Course Professor names). It's *possible* that III could set
this up for your 'p' index, but I highly doubt it. The setting is found
at A-A-S-O-O -> 'Offer option to reverse author name on failed search',
but it doesn't allow you to set the index(es).

A popup prompting the user to type LastName, FirstName is certainly
doable, but pretty intrusive. You'd be forcing all users who already
know how to search by author to click the popup away. This is considered
Bad. Instead of a popup, you could have the message hidden in a div
directly above the search field, and show the message only when the
Author index is selected from the dropdown. Or you could have the
message appear right in the search field (I'd recommend adding
'onfocus="this.select()"' to the searcharg input in this case; then the
message will be highlighted and easily deleted when the cursor enters
the field).

Let me know if you want details on how to hide/show your message.

Andrew Welch
Sr. Library Systems Technician
Aurora Public Library
Aurora, CO 80012
http://auroralibrary.org
 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org 
>[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Riesner, Giles
>Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 1:31 PM
>To: Innovative Users Group List
>Subject: [IUG] WebOPAC Refinements
>
>My boss is looking at re-configuring our website and also how 
>people find things within our catalog and wondered about a 
>couple  of things:
>
>First:
>In the Author index if you type in  Donald Norman  as author, 
>it comes back with a message saying
>                    Your entry  Donald Norman  would be here   --
>Change search to  Norman, Donald  (link) Yet if you include a 
>middle initial e.g.  Donald A. Norman , the message is only  
>the "your entry would be here" part.
>Is there any way to have it make the suggestion to reverse the 
>name in both instances?
>
>Also, on a related note, searching by Course Professor even 
>without a middle initial ALWAYS brings up just the
>            "Your entry would be here" message with no suggestions.  
>It would be good to have it behave the same way as  Donald 
>Norman above as well.
>
>Where is any of it controlled?  I couldn't find it in the  
>manual.  Is it something that III has to do for us?
>
>Second:
>She wonders about the possibility of when you select Author or 
>Course by Professor  using a drop-down menu  having a pop-up
>come up saying:  Type Last Name First    Any thoughts on how 
>doable this
>might be?
>
>Thanks .
>
>--Giles
>
>Giles W. Riesner Jr. 
>Library Tech Support & Library System Manager Community 
>College of Baltimore Co.- Catonsville 800 S. Rolling Road 
>Baltimore, MD 21228  USA
>Phone: 1-410-455-4245
>Email:  griesner at ccbcmd dot edu
>
>
>
>
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