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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 09:45:57 -0000
From: "Brown, Alan" <A dot Brown at bury dot gov dot uk>
Subject: RE: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set

There is no need to create a separate stylesheet called ie7_styles.css,
because if you use the example set as is, IE 7 will go into 'quirks
mode' and behave like IE 6. The conditional comment 

Which points all IE browsers version 8 and below to ie_styles.css. Its a
quick fix and for me not very satisfying. An alternative is to use IE 7
in standards mode and add a DTD for the fully editable pages e.g.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd";>

It is possible to get many of these pages to validate (as long as no-one
is logged in - vote for 4126) to transitional. Once you have done this
you do need to edit styles.css to give some widths to the Active and
Inactive tabs e.g.

.mainActiveTab {/*added for ie 7*/width:102px; background: transparent;
float:left; margin:0 5px -1px 0; }
.mainInactiveTab {/*added for ie 7*/width:100px; background:
transparent; float:left; margin:0 5px 0 0; }

as well as the .helpActiveTab etc.

For system generated pages you will still have to change the WWW Option

INSERTTAG_INHEAD=<script type="text/javascript"
src="/screens/bibdisplay.js"></script><script type="text/javascript"
src="/screens/brief.js"></script>

After quite a lot of hacking and a lot of trips to our public access
pc's (we have one pc there with IE 7 on it) we are finally live at

http://library.bury.gov.uk

If anyone has a mac I would be interested in a screenshot of the
mainmenu.html in Safari

ta

Alan

Alan Brown
Library Systems Liaison Officer
Bury Metro Libraries
Resource Services
Textile Hall
Manchester Rd
Bury BL9 0DG
0161 253 5877
http://bury.gov.uk/libraries

-----Original Message-----
From: Deb Bergeron [mailto:bergeron at macalester dot edu]
Sent: 07 February 2007 18:08
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set

Sue,

I'm not sure I understand your message. Sorry to be so dense. What are
you suggesting I change?

Thanks so much for all your help.

deb

Sue E Boggs wrote:
> I'm dealing with the 2006Pro example set but I think the result would
> be the same in the 2006 example set. I just downloaded the example set

> updated in November to compare it to the one I downloaded in
> September. The new files have replaced the "If ie6" with "If ie8". I
> tried that on the mainmenu page in our staging area and checked it on
> IE7 and it worked. It is a simpler change than making a third style
> sheet and should keep us going through another release of IE.
>
> Sue
>
> Sue Boggs
> Cataloging & Library Technician
> Technical Services
> Library
> University of Puget Sound
> 1500 N. Warner St. #1021
> Tacoma, WA 98416-1021
> (253) 879-2667
> boggs at ups dot edu
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Mark Strang
> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 6:47 AM
> To: IUG INNOPAC List
> Subject: RE: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set
>
> Hi Everyone:
>
> I fixed up my Release 2006 Example set I.E. 7 display issues with the
> Tab's rendering wrong by:
>
> 1) I copied the styles.css file and named the new file
> ie7_styles.css
>
> I may not have needed to do this but on my first pass I couldn't get
> the
>
> I.E. seven to read the styles.css file.
>
> 2) I updated the .css intruction on all my html pages
> like srchhelp_X.html, Bibdisplay.html, pverify.html, etc. in the
> following manner:
>
> I added the following at the bottom of the list for css instruction:
> 
>
>
> So the top of my html pages read:
>
> <head>
> <title>BGSU Libraries Catalog</title>
> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1"
> />
> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/screens/styles.css"
> title="default" />
>
> 
>
> 
>
> </head>
>
> I'm sure there are cleaner ways to deal with the issues but I'd
thought
> my
> relatively painless one with everyone. Thanks for pointing me in the
> right
> direction, Victor Zuniga, and Alan Brown. Too bad everyone doesn't
> make
> their browsers work with the css standards.
> Best of Luck to others,
> Mark
>
>
> At 12:04 PM 10/26/2006, you wrote:
>
>> Just realized that I should also have mentioned that I did try using
>> styles.css in IE7, but still had the wrapper problem.
>>
>> Maurine McCourry
>> Technical Services Librarian
>> Hillsdale College, Mossey Library
>> maurine dot mccourry at hillsdale dot edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maurine McCourry
>> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:47 AM
>> To: 'IUG INNOPAC List'
>> Subject: RE: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set
>>
>> We redesigned in August using the 2006 WebPAC Pro Example Set, and
when
>> I upgraded to IE7 yesterday to check this out, I discovered we had
>> problems, too. The big problem was that the "wrappers" on the search
>> pages didn't seem to be working.
>>
>> I don't know how well this fix will hold up, but the following seems
to
>> be working for me right now: First, I added "word-wrap : break-word;
"
>> to the body style in section 1 of ie_styles.css. Then I changed all
>>
> the
>
>> "if lte IE 6" statements on my site to "if IE".
>>
>> I'm most definitely one of those "accidental" systems librarians, so
>> this is no kind of expert recommendation, but, like I said, it's
>>
> working
>
>> for now.
>>
>> And I'd be very interested in a fix for the tab detachment problem,
>>
> too.
>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Maurine McCourry
>> Technical Services Librarian
>> Hillsdale College, Mossey Library
>> maurine dot mccourry at hillsdale dot edu
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
>> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Brown, Alan
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 3:32 AM
>> To: IUG INNOPAC List
>> Subject: RE: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I would have thought that the conditional comment already in the
>>
> example
>
>> set should have worked 
>>
>> And if you are getting an error in IE 7 then you need to look again
at
>> styles.css. I have not been able to do this because of the difficulty
>> getting IE6 & IE7 to run on the same machine.
>>
>> By the way has anyone come up with a way to overcome the annoying
>> display of the example set in IE 6 where an active tab becomes
detached
>>
> >from the content (occasionally)? If so how?
>
>> Alan
>>
>> Alan Brown
>> Library Systems Liaison Officer
>> Bury Metro Libraries
>> Resource Services
>> Textile Hall
>> Manchester Rd
>> Bury BL9 0DG
>> 0161 253 5877
>> http://bury.gov.uk/libraries
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Victor Zuniga [mailto:vzuniga at westervillelibrary dot org]
>> Sent: 23 October 2006 16:52
>> To: IUG INNOPAC List
>> Subject: RE: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set
>>
>>
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> I believe you can solve this issue by using IE conditional comments.
If
>> you take a look at the 2006 pro version pages you'll find that most
>> pages are using it to differentiate between IE and other browsers.
You
>> will need to twist it a little bit to include IE 7 in the detection
>> process. Take a look:
>>
>>
>>
>> <link href="/screens/default.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/>
>>  
>
>> Since conditional comments only work on IE you will have to put your
>> stylesheet for firefox and other browsers at the top so it will read
as
>> the default. Additional information can be found at this link:
>>
>> http://www.thesitewizard.com/css/excludecss.shtml
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Victor Zuniga
>> Computer Services
>> Westerville Public Library
>> 614.882.7277 ext. 165
>> vzuniga at westervillelibrary dot org
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
>> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Mark Strang
>> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:53 AM
>> To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
>> Subject: [IUG] I.E. 7 and the Rel 2006 example set
>>
>> Hi Everyone:
>>
>> I used the May Example set for my web page redesign this past summer,
>> and I've just discoved that I.E. 7.0 doesn't like my catalog pages.
>>
> Has
>
>> anyone out there figured this one out yet?
>> I'm guessing I.E. 7.0 works just fine with the styles.css file, but I
>> 'll need to change the code to indicate that if its I.E. less than
7.0
>> use ie_styles.css and if it's I.E. 7.0 use the styles.css. Anyone
>> figure this out yet?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Strang
>> Data Systems Manager
>> University Libraries I.T.S.
>> Bowling Green State University
>> Bowling Green, Oh 43403
>> mstrang at bgnet dot bgsu dot edu
>> 419-372-0323
>>
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> Bowling Green State University
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