RE: [IUG] III and users groups
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Said (et al) --
Please see my answers below:
1- How you register your IUG Users Group? Are you a non-profit organization with tax exemption?
Answer: I think that there are many groups out there that are registered differently. The Eastern Great Lakes IUG is not organizad in and large fashion as of yet. We have tried to hold off as long as possible. Our finances are managed by a local school who offers us the service. This might be something that the regional list can help answer more effectively.
2- Do IUG Users Groups report to the "mother", the main IUG users Group either on activities or on financial aspects?
Answer: We prefer the term "mother-ship". Actually, the regional or local IUG Groups can do really whatever they want. We like them to report their activities (meetings, trainings, etc.) so the other regional groups can see what else is going on. We also want to get these events on our IUG calendar so people will be able to see what is offered out there in the world. There are many personel at IUG libraries that do not get to go to the annual meetings, but can afford to go to the regional meetings. So we definitely want to know about these only in the way that we can help spread the word.
3- Does the main IUG users Groups supervise, direct (or influence) the regional users groups in any way?
Answer: Only in the sense that each regional group is supposed to make a payment (or tribute) to the IUG Chair in form of a check or Gift Card every year. I still have not received any and I am getting very mad!
Actually, the regional groups are completely independent and they can do what they want. What we have done, recently is start a dialogue about what the "mother-ship" can do for the regional groups. Not all the regional groups have easy access to webspace or mailman for the listserv. We have been working with a few groups in coming up with ways that the IUG can support the regional groups. We want to do this to support local groups and facilitate local communication and interaction. That all benefits the users across the board. So we are interested in what the regionals are doing...just not spying.
4- How you deal with a library or institution located out of your area but wants to join your group?
Answer: With the Eastern Great Lakes IUG, we have people come to our meetings from a bit far a field. I think it is great. I have seen people from outside the region go to larger meetings because it is still pretty easy to travel two states vs. ten! That can be your call...but I am all for the more the merrier.
Hope this helps.
Best -- Corey
Corey Seeman
IUG Chair, 2006-2007
Director
Kresge Business Administration Library
Ross School of Business
The University of Michigan
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From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org on behalf of Said Shafik
Sent: Sat 12/16/2006 11:12 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: RE: [IUG] III and users groups
Thanks much,
1- How you register your IUG Users Group? Are you a non-profit
organization with tax exemption?
2- Do IUG Users Groups report to the "mother", the main IUG users Group
either on activities or on financial aspects?
3- Does the main IUG users Groups supervise, direct (or influence) the
regional users groups in any way?
4- How you deal with a library or institution located out of your area
but wants to join your group?
This is for anyone who can help...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Said Shafik
Systems Librarian
Emirates Center for Strategic Studies & Research
P.O.Box 107277
Abu Dhabi
United Arab Emirates
http://www.ecssr.com
http://library.ecssr.com
Work Phone:++971-2-404-4581
Mobile Phone:++971-5-323-5696
Home Phone:++971-2-645-9787
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-----Original Message-----
From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Ruth Margaret
Baxter
Sent: December 16, 2006 02:59 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: [IUG] III and users groups
At the Australasian Innovative Users Group we get Aaron Blazer and
William Ho as our regional reps, but we also sometimes get another
Innovative rep if we ask enough time in advance. This year our group
asked for Jerry Kline and he came.
Our AIUG annual conference is much smaller than the American IUG and
goes for only 2 days. We start with a presentation from a visiting
Innovative staff member, and then run member sessions. On the last day
we get a final presentation from Aaron Blazer about the features of the
upcoming release and new products. In addition they can give special
presentations if we have a particular topic, they have meetings
individually with many staff and they attend our sessions. During both
the opening/closing sessions they take questions and answer our queries.
Aaron Blazer also takes notes about any concerns for which they don't
have detail to answer on the spot, and email back to individuals or to
our mailing list.
If you have a specific concern its best to get in early on asking the
specialist to attend. Australia is a long flight and expensive so we
have to try and plan in advance. Another thing you could try would be to
schedule forums on specific modules like IUG, eg Circulation forum and
ask the Technical rep for that area to attend. The III management are
usually on board with sending who you want, and it's not uncommon to
ask.
We run separate training each year that we pay for. We have problems
getting enough people for one specific topic to reach the maximum number
and hence reduce the costs. We never get all the training needs of our
members covered each year but we do get at least 2 topics covered.
Good luck,
Ruth Baxter
2006 AIUG Chair
> The Minnesota IUG managed to get III to send Dinah Sanders, product
> manager for the Web OPAC and others, to our Spring 2006 meeting. She
> participated in our keynote panel on the future of the OPAC (see
> http://www.macalester.edu/mniug/spring2006.html for the program
> information).
>
> I don't know how we did it, but I credit Deb Bergeron from CLIC for
> persuading III that we really wanted someone with in-depth technical
> knowledge on our keynote panel. Dinah was predictably fabulous, too.
>
> Eric Hinsdale
> Carleton College
>
> said shafik wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Frank,
>> In fact, that is the kind of respond I was waiting to receive, from a
>> user group organizer more than from attendees. I would like to know
>> if an organizer could ask III to send a programmer or a production
>> manager instead or along with sales representative.
>> Aslo, I wanted to know how much time is devoted to the III speaker
vs.
>> the iug group speakers and if specific topics is to be addressed. At
>> last, have any of the organizers had III as a co sponser of the
>> gathering? I heard the word NO because "We want to be independent" at
>> the same time yet a publisher or an III partner is sponsering!
>> Nothing against III sales representatives, most of them are friends,
>> just addressing some issues related to organizing a user group
meeting.
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>> Said Shafik
>> Systems Librarian
>> Emirates Center for Strategic Studies & Research P.O.Box 107277 Abu
>> Dhabi United Arab Emirates http://www.ecssr.com
>> http://library.ecssr.com Work Phone:++971-2-404-4581 Mobile
>> Phone:++971-5-323-5696 Home Phone:++971-2-645-9787
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: "Frank Scaturro" <scaturro at adelphi dot edu>
>>> To: <saidshafik at hotmail dot com>
>>> Subject: Re: [IUG] III and users groups
>>> Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:56:37 -0500
>>>
>>> Hi Said,
>>> I run the tristate users group and we're looking into paying for a
>>> trainer to answer our questions and have a sales rep as well.
>>> (Similar to what the MidAtlantic group is doing currently - MAIG)
>>> Frank
>>>
>>> >>> saidshafik at hotmail dot com 12/14/2006 9:14:01 AM >>>
>>> Please,
>>> I have a question to the III different users groups:
>>> I just returned from the first conference or gathering of the new
>>> GCC IUG, the Gulf users group. I would like to know if III just
>>> sends its sales people only to these users groups like what I have
>>> seen the last two days. I do not mind to listen again and again to
>>> the same presentations of III sales if they also listen to our
>>> concerns. Some of them do not bother even taking notes of what we
>>> are telling them, rather they focus on delivering their things ans
>>> give repeated answers to issues we address. They also dominate the
>>> gathering with long presentations, leaving little time for the users
>>> to present their needs or talk about issues. I have asked if the
>>> future gathering can have a programmer and or product manager to
>>> whom we can address our issues and get convincing answers.
>>>
>>> Is this the case with other users groups?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>> Said Shafik
>>> Systems Librarian
>>> Emirates Center for Strategic Studies & Research P.O.Box 107277 Abu
>>> Dhabi United Arab Emirates http://www.ecssr.com
>>> http://library.ecssr.com Work Phone:++971-2-404-4581 Mobile
>>> Phone:++971-5-323-5696 Home Phone:++971-2-645-9787
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
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