RE: [IUG] System Mgt People in Short Supply?

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Agreed. I have worked as a system adm for 2 of the other major ILS's
(which shall go unnamed). For all the whining I do (I try to keep it
targeted) Innovative is still the best system I have worked with.

I had the luxury of doing nothing but Innovative system admin, when I
first came to Canton PL. I am now a dept head but retain this
responsibility. My previous experience also suggests that the job tends
to include other "duties as required".

I had a discussion, related to this, with Corey Seeman at the first
Eastern Great Lakes IUG meeting.
The issue was/is: Where are the programs that emphasize this aspect of
librarianship?

I suppose most technically oriented people are more interested in web
design than they are on more hard cores aspects of system admin (database
management, scripting, etc., which does include the webopac). But if
there were programs that allowed students to get there hand under the
hoold of an ILS I think there would be takers.

I suppose the only way to do this would be to get students involved as
interns, in the admin of the school's ILS. SSetting up some kind of
virtual infrastructure, with another ILS product might be an option, but
the propriety nature of the business probably prohibits this.

Leo


David Ruml wrote:
> You got that right. I can't imagine working on any non-Innovative
> system. To me, the ILS is where the action is, where we can Be
> Innovative.
>
> DAVID E. RUML
> Carrollton Public Library
> CARROLLTON, TEXAS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Anderson, Barb
> (Library)
> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:28 AM
> To: IUG INNOPAC List
> Subject: RE: [IUG] System Mgt People in Short Supply?
>
> Hook up with a nearby library school. Be a mentor. Offer internships.
> Be a speaker at local organization's meetings. TELL them what a cool
> job it is--when I was in school I couldn't imagine all that was involved
> and now I'd hate to ever have to stop being an Innopac administrator!
> Barb
>
> Barb Anderson
> Medical Librarian
> The Cleveland Clinic Alumni Library
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On
>> Behalf Of Truitt, Marc
>> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 10:15 AM
>> To: beiser at maine dot edu; IUG INNOPAC List
>> Cc: Truitt, Marc
>> Subject: RE: [IUG] System Mgt People in Short Supply?
>>
>> Hi Karl,
>>
>> To borrow from Bill Clinton, "I feel your pain". While I was AD for
> Systems at University
>> of Houston, I had to advertise for something in excess of eight months
> before I was able to
>> find a qualified system manager. The individual we ultimately
> selected came from a
>> background with another ILS vendor. During those eight months, we
> received perhaps four
>> or five applications, of which only one other than the selected
> candidate might be termed
>> even credible. And this was in Houston, the nation's fourth largest
> city! You are not alone.
>>
>> The problem is larger still, I'm sad to report. I've worked at
> several other sites with different
>> ILSes, and all with attractive locations and work situations. In each
> case, good system
>> managers are becoming hard to find. Often, the responsibilities of
> such positions must be
>> 'bundled' with other jobs (e.g., workstation/network/server support or
> webmaster), in order
>> to attract *any* kind of qualified candidate. And in these instances,
> my observation is
>> almost always that the incumbent winds up treating the ILS as a poor
> relation, favoring the
>> sexier, trendier, more easily transferable workstation, server,
> networking, and web aspects
>> of the job.
>>
>> It isn't a pretty picture. ILS management simply is not where the
> best and the brightest
>> young faces are going in systems librarianship these days. As with
> cataloguers, we are a
>> greying lot. And I regret to say I don't have any notion of how to
> change that.
>>
>> - mt
>>
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>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org on behalf of Karl Beiser
>> Sent: Thu 2006-09-21 09:29
>> To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
>> Subject: [IUG] System Mgt People in Short Supply?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is your sense of the market for experienced Innovative system
>> managers? Either as employer or as potential job seeker, what are the
>
>> best recruitment approaches, in your view?
>>
>> We advertised a Library Automation Manager position within the Maine
>> State Library and the Maine Info Net Project in July and received only
>
>> 5 responses, just one of which fully met the job description. We have
>
>> extended the search to increase the size of the selection pool. I
>> just posted the postion announcement to this list today.
>>
>> We think the salary is reasonable for an exciting and varied job in
>> Maine, which is not at all a bad place to live. The full description
>> is at:
>>
>> http://www.maine.gov/statejobs/directhire/MH30(09-11).htm
>>
>> Any suggestions you may have for effective advertisement of this
>> position would be greatly appreciated. As would your observations on
>> the supply of and demand for people to work with Innovative systems
>> and integrate them into online library services generally.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Karl
>> --
>> Karl Beiser, Executive Director
>> Maine Info Net
>> 16 Central Street
>> Bangor, ME 04401
>> beiser at maine dot edu
>> 207-973-3293, 207-299-2492 (cell)
>> 207-973-3296 (fax)
>>
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