RE: [IUG] RE: [IUGSteer] RE: IUG Hosting Regional Websites
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Just to answer the following question:
> If IUG only provided hosting service, and the institution or group has
> it's domain name registered elsewhere, the registrar could redirect
> queries to their domain to the files hosted at IUG under a unique
> account.
> Would this still require a fee on our end?
It would cost IUG to simply host a domain. You would need to register the service with the vps namespace -- so there would be a 25 dollar fee.
> We dont intend to provide consulting services for their
> websites, do we?
I would certainly hope not. I know that neither Kyle or I would have the time necessary to spend with each group showing them how to "write" pages. We could produce a couple of documents or even templates that show how to pull our look if that was desired -- but I wouldn't imagine anyone would. In fact, Leo is likely right, I'm not sure how many groups would actually want to use our web server for storing regional websites -- but as I've said earlier -- if the steering committee wants to offer this as an option -- the process would be simple and take ~5 minutes to configure per request. Basically, it would require:
1) Creating a new user (likely the name of the regional iug group). This would give users access to ftp
a) User accounts will be set with quotas (10 MB or whatever)
2) Create the following 2 directories:
a) /www/htdocs/regionals/[iuggroup]
b) /home/[iuggroup]/public_html
3) Create a symlink between a and b.
That's it.
--TR
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Terry Reese
Cataloger for Networked Resources
Digital Production Unit Head
Oregon State University Libraries
Corvallis, OR 97331
tel: 541-737-6384
email: terry dot reese at oregonstate dot edu
http: http://oregonstate.edu/~reeset
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From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org on behalf of Leo Papa
Sent: Tue 8/22/2006 12:05 PM
To: IUG
Subject: [IUG] RE: [IUGSteer] RE: IUG Hosting Regional Websites
I don't see it as a high priority.
I can't imagine that we want to get in the business of coordinating the
information disseminated by these groups, or promoting a common design to
their sites. We dont intend to provide consulting services for their
websites, do we?
The cost of registering a domain, and getting some space on the
registrar's (or some other hosting agency's) server is quite minimal.
I should think if a group has a person who is capable of constructing a
site, and is a viable as an organization, they will have the knowlege and
funds to do this for themsleves.
Leo
Seeman, Corey wrote:
> If we do not have an added fee, I would not be in favor of charging for
> the service. The question is if we want to do it at all?
>
> Corey
>
>
> Corey Seeman
>
> Interim Library Director &
> Associate Director, Information Resources and Systems
> Kresge Business Administration Library
> Stephen M. Ross School of Business
> University of Michigan
> 701 Tappan Street, K3330
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48109-1234
> (734) 764-9969
> Cell Phone (734) 717-9734
> Fax (734) 764-3839
> cseeman at umich dot edu
>
> http://www.bus.umich.edu/kresgelibrary/
> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cseeman/index.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: iugsteer-bounces at innopacusers dot org
> [mailto:iugsteer-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Leo Papa
> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:27 PM
> To: IUG Steering Committee
> Subject: Re: [IUGSteer] RE: IUG Hosting Regional Websites
>
> Terry
>
> I don't have a strong opinion about providing such services or not. But
> I'm not sure how big a benefit it would be to the regional groups if we
> had to require a fee.
>
> If IUG only provided hosting service, and the institution or group has
> it's domain name registered elsewhere, the registrar could redirect
> queries to their domain to the files hosted at IUG under a unique
> account.
> Would this still require a fee on our end?
>
>
> Leo
>
> Reese, Terry wrote:
>> Currently, the IUG website has 6.2 GB reserved under its /home
>> partition. ~2.4 GB of this space if free. I don't know how many user
>
>> groups we actually have (I count 29 on the regional site) but I would
>> say that we could offer to provide hosting for user sites providing
>> ~10-20 MB (600 MB total for 30 sites) without impacting our current
>> services -- though if space is cheap, I would probably recommend
>> adding at least 4 additional GB to the server. As far as allowing
>> sites to have their own unique URLS -- we could do that, but there
>> would be a cost associated with this. On the server side -- we could
>> configure different virtual hosts, i.e., norcaliug.innovativeusers.org
>
>> that were assigned to a specific user account on the server. Simple.
>
>> However, in order for our server to resolve this address, we would
>> need to have each new virtual host added to the vps (the group that
>> host our webserver) name server. I did a quick test, and it would
>> cost $25 per virtualhost to add to the vps name server. Maybe at some
>
>> point (i.e., if we add in a batch) this price goes down, but I'd have
>> to inquire for that information. So, if all 30 sites wanted their own
>
>> virtualhosts, IUG would have to pay ~$750. I believe that this is a
>> one time cost -- but again, I'd want to confirm that.
>>
>> --TR
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Seeman, Corey [mailto:cseeman at bus dot umich dot edu]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:49 AM
>>> To: iugsteer at innovativeusers dot org; webguru at innovativeusers dot org
>>> Subject: IUG Hosting Regional Websites
>>>
>>> Hi -- Starting this year, we began offering Mailman services to
>>> regional and special interest groups. I was asked from one of the
>>> regional groups if we would provide web-hosting for them as well.
>>>
>>> I am not sure if I remember suggesting that. There are some
>>> logistical issues and a possible space issue (lets say they have a
>>> fall meeting and load 10 5MB files every fall).
>>>
>>> Is this something that we should pursue or should we suggest finding
>>> a local host. The librarian's institution would not host the site.
>>> I am not sure if the hang-up was on a url (like www.miug.org) or just
>
>>> the web space on the library site.
>>>
>>> I can follow up, but wanted to query this group to see if it is a
>>> direction we should go.
>>>
>>> Best -- Corey
>>>
>>> Corey Seeman
>>> Interim Library Director
>>> and
>>> Associate Director for Information Resources and Systems Kresge
>>> Business Administration Library Ross School of Business The
>>> University of Michigan cseeman at umich dot edu
>>> (734) 764-9969
>>> (734) 717-9734 (cell)
>>> (734) 764-3839 (fax)
>>>
>>> Kresge Library Home Page:
>>> http://www.bus.umich.edu/kresgelibrary/
>>> <http://www.bus.umich.edu/kresgelibrary/>
>>> My home page:
>>> http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cseeman/index.html
>>> <http://www-personal.umich.edu/~cseeman/index.html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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