RE: Advanced Keyword Search quirks?

["Young, Michelle" <myoung at vt dot edu>]

I am relatively new to all of this so I may be off the mark but, It is
my understanding from page #101243 in the manual that the keyword field
is not ranked by relevance and thus, no hits. -Michelle

 

For the Relevance option, the system uses the following rules to rank
the search results:

*         The four indexed fields Title, Author, Subject, and Note are
ranked in order. Records that include a particular word or phrase from
the search expression in the Title field will have a higher relevance
than those in which the word or phrase appears in the Author field.
Similarly, records that include the term(s) in the Author field will
have a higher relevance than those in which the term(s) appear in the
Subject field.

*         For searches on a single word, the system first applies the
"field rule" described above. It then determines relevance based on one
of the following three rules:

o        Most relevant -- The word is one of the first eight words
indexed for the same record

o        Next most relevant -- The word is one of the first thirty-two
words indexed for the same record

o        Last most relevant -- The word is indexed more than once in the
same record

*         For searches including more than one word, the system first
applies the "field rule" described above. It then determines relevance
based on one of the following three rules:

o        Most relevant -- The first two words are very near one another
in the index

o        Next most relevant -- The first two words are near one another
in the index

o        Last most relevant -- The words are indexed more than once in
the same record


Michelle L. Young, MLS               
Virginia Tech, University Libraries
College Librarian, Assistant Professor
myoung at vt dot edu / 540.231.9285

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Berger, Marianne
C.
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 2:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Advanced Keyword Search quirks?

Could you share the number, we have the same thing happening here.

Marianne

Marianne Berger
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[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Steve Sowder
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 1:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Advanced Keyword Search quirks?


Thanks for the info Craig.

I called the helpdesk and I walked the tech through the search. At the 
NO RECORDS FOUND I heard "huh?".

I have a call tracking number now.


Steve

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Craig Johnson wrote:

> Steve -
> 
> Not sure why you're getting the zero "relevance" results - our catalog

> gives the same numbers regardless of the sort.
> 
> According to the manual, "near" is supposed to "retrieve records that 
> contain the specified words or phrases within ten words of each other 
> in the same indexed field." After looking in our catalog and a couple 
> others, it's clear this is not even close to being accurate. The words

> do not need to be in the same indexed field, nor do they need to be 
> within ten words of each other. "Near" searches yield fewer hits than 
> "and" searches, if not very many fewer, but I can't figure out what 
> the criteria for the different results are.
> 
> So... there's a bit more information for you, but I'm afraid the light

> I'm shedding on your questions isn't really what you're looking for.
> 
> Craig Johnson
> Iowa City Public Library
> www.icpl.org 
> ccjohnson at icpl dot org 
> 
> >>> sowder at andrews dot edu 9/13/2005 8:52 AM >>>
> 
> We just completed (last Friday) the install of AKS and have since
> discovered some interesting things.
> 
> When I do an advanced search using "wom?n" as the search term and 
> "date" as the sort term I get 11,197 hits. When I change the sort to
> "relevance" I 
> get zero hits.  Why?
> 
> When I search for "church near school" I get hits that have the word
> "church" in a tag 110 field and "school" in a 500 tag.  The "near" to
> me 
> appears to be a bit "to far" away. Why does it think it is near?
> 
> Those who have gone through this before please enlighten me.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Steve Sowder                             Systems Librarian
> sowder at andrews dot edu                      Andrews University   
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