RE: Advanced Keyword Search quirks?

["Craig Johnson" <cjohnson at icpl dot org>]

Which explains why relevancy/sort works fine for us since we're on 2005.

There's still the AVS "near" (not) problem though. I suppose it's seldom
used, but it's annoying that it doesn't work as advertised. We may need
to change our search instructions - although I'm not sure what could be
said. Without quotes around it, the word still acts as a Boolean limiter
- it's just not clear what that limit is.

Craig Johnson
Iowa City Public Library
www.icpl.org
ccjohnson at icpl dot org

>>> sowder at andrews dot edu 09/13/05 2:22 PM >>>
Innovative has responded with relevancy sort and wildcard searching
being 
a known issue. Fix is in release 2005.

Steve
sowder at andrews dot edu


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> 
> Thanks for the info Craig.
> 
> I called the helpdesk and I walked the tech through the search. At the

> NO RECORDS FOUND I heard "huh?".
> 
> I have a call tracking number now.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Craig Johnson wrote:
> 
> > Steve -
> > 
> > Not sure why you're getting the zero "relevance" results - our
catalog
> 
> > gives the same numbers regardless of the sort.
> > 
> > According to the manual, "near" is supposed to "retrieve records
that 
> > contain the specified words or phrases within ten words of each
other 
> > in the same indexed field." After looking in our catalog and a
couple 
> > others, it's clear this is not even close to being accurate. The
words
> 
> > do not need to be in the same indexed field, nor do they need to be 
> > within ten words of each other. "Near" searches yield fewer hits
than 
> > "and" searches, if not very many fewer, but I can't figure out what 
> > the criteria for the different results are.
> > 
> > So... there's a bit more information for you, but I'm afraid the
light
> 
> > I'm shedding on your questions isn't really what you're looking for.
> > 
> > Craig Johnson
> > Iowa City Public Library
> > www.icpl.org 
> > ccjohnson at icpl dot org 
> > 
> > >>> sowder at andrews dot edu 9/13/2005 8:52 AM >>>
> > 
> > We just completed (last Friday) the install of AKS and have since
> > discovered some interesting things.
> > 
> > When I do an advanced search using "wom?n" as the search term and 
> > "date" as the sort term I get 11,197 hits. When I change the sort to
> > "relevance" I 
> > get zero hits.  Why?
> > 
> > When I search for "church near school" I get hits that have the word
> > "church" in a tag 110 field and "school" in a 500 tag.  The "near"
to
> > me 
> > appears to be a bit "to far" away. Why does it think it is near?
> > 
> > Those who have gone through this before please enlighten me.
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Sowder                             Systems Librarian
> > sowder at andrews dot edu                      Andrews University   
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