Re: search OPAC from library home?

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Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:41:48 -0400
From: "T Kolakowski" <tkolakow at suffolk dot lib dot ny dot us>
Subject: Re: search OPAC from library home?

The address 192.211.20.10/screens/search.html is for a local (internal) IP
number and is not viewable from the Internet.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Harper" <charper at mail dot colgate dot edu>
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: search OPAC from library home?

Is it just me, or is it possible to view this file
(192.211.20.10/screens/search.html) from the browser? I'm having trouble
viewing it.

Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
Colgate University, Case Library
Hamilton NY 13346
Phone: 315-228-7363 fax: 315-228-7934
charper at mail dot colgate dot edu

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* Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 11:01:07 -0800
* From: "Edwards, Richard" <redwards at xxxxxxxxxx>
* Subject: RE: Losing Scope from Pages Not on Innovative Server

We did find a solution, of sorts, for the problem of a search box on a
page
external to the Innovative server returning a
scoped list of hits, but as soon as you select a hit or click next page,
you
lose the scope.

You can see the results on the Washington State Library's home page
(http://www.statelib.wa.gov) near the bottom.

There is also a separate web page where you can view the source:
http://www.statelib.wa.gov/catalog.aspx

This fix was designed by the web master for the Office of the Secretary
of
State, Matthew Edwards. It also requires a file (which we called
search.html) to be uploaded to the screens directory. This file can be
found
at: 192.211.20.10/screens/search.html

Unfortunately this solution results in a time delay since the web page
goes
to the Innovative server for the search.html page (and displays the
interim
search graphic) in addition to going to the Innovative server for the
search
itself.

It does keep the scope intact though.

I did have several librarians send me URLs to their library pages
stating
that their searches worked fine and the scopes stayed intact, but in
every
case I found the scope did NOT work when I closed IE and restarted it
fresh
and did a scoped search on their library page. In every case the scope
broke
and Next Page resulted in viewing the entire collection.

The use of the special "search.html" file was the only method we could
find
that solved the problem.

I hope this is helpful.

Joyfully,

Rich
Rich Edwards
Technical Services Program Manager
Washington State Library
PO Box 42460
Olympia, WA 98504-2460
redwards at xxxxxxxxxx
(360)704-7136
Innovative Help Website: http://wslnet.statelib.wa.gov/iii/

"You will be surprised to find how much that has seemed hopelessly
disagreeable possesses either an instructive or an amusing side." Ella
Wheeler Wilcox in The Heart of the New Thought, 1902.

-----Original Message-----
From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Thomsen
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:00 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: RE: search OPAC from library home?

But I do feel compelled to mention the much-misunderstood, undocumented
and underestimated problem with scoped searches. It's really easy to
create search boxes and links using scopes that look great, appear to
work, but, under certain circumstances, really don't.

We thought our search boxes were working fine until our users started
pointing out to us that they weren't. This was discussed extensively on
this list back in 2003, and as far as I know, nothing has changed. We
adopted the solution mentioned by Rich Edwards (to whom we're extremely
grateful) in the message linked below:
http://innovativeusers.org/list/archives/2003/msg01171.html

Elizabeth

On Tue, 24 May 2005, Seeman, Corey Glenn wrote:

> Nason --
>
> You should be able to do this with hidden values (like this <input
type="hidden" name="SORT" value="D" />) if you are using a keyword
search. You can set any value and it will be added to the search. With
the multiple limiting option that is coming with Release 2005, you can
also set it to a variety of values which is really fantastic.
>
> There is a great FAQ on CSDirect that you might find useful. It is
called "Linking to the Web OPAC Using Persistent URLs" and it is located
here:
>
> http://csdirect.iii.com/faq/persistenturls.shtml
>
> You will need to use your CSDirect password to view the document.
>
> Best -- Corey
>
> Corey Seeman
> Asst. Dean for Resource and Systems Management University of Toledo
>
> corey dot seeman at utoledo dot edu
> http://library.utoledo.edu/userhomes/cseeman/
> (419) 530-2333
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org on behalf of Throgmorton, Nason
L.
> Sent: Tue 5/24/2005 4:45 PM
> To: IUG INNOPAC List
> Subject: RE: search OPAC from library home?
>
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know how to send a limit to a material type using the form

> type below. I am would like a search box on our AV website that will
> only search the catalog for videos.
>
> Thank you,
> Nason Throgmorton
> Stafford Library
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
> [mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of Fifarek, Aimee
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 12:52 PM
> To: 'IUG INNOPAC List'; elin at ucmerced dot edu
> Subject: RE: search OPAC from library home?
>
> Emily -- we decided to go with just a plain box that automatically
> does a keyword search, with the go button next to it. Here's the
> code:
> <table>
> <form name="catalog" action="http://your.catalog.url/search/a?a";
> method="post" onsubmit="return checkform(this);"> <tr><td
> align="bottom"> <input type="hidden" name="searchtype" value="X" />
> <input name="searcharg" id="searchterms" size="13" /> <input
> type="hidden" name="SORT" value="D" /> </td><td valign="top"> <input
> type="image" value="Submit"
> src="http://your.catalog.url/screens/go_but.gif"; class="searchbutton"
> accesskey="s" title="Search the Library catalog" alt="Search the
> Library catalog"/> </td> </tr></table>
>
> -- Aimee
>
> Aimee Fifarek
> Library Technology Supervisor
> Scottsdale Public Library
> 3839 N. Drinkwater Blvd.
> Scottsdale, AZ 85251-4467
> Tel: 480/312-7060
> Fax: 480/312-7993
> afifarek at scottsdaleaz dot gov
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Jones [mailto:djones at scu dot edu]
> Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 7:07 PM
> To: innopac at innopacusers dot org; elin at ucmerced dot edu
> Subject: Re: search OPAC from library home?
>
>
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________________
> David Jones mailto:djones at scu dot edu
> Library Systems Manager http://www.scu.edu/library/
> Orradre Library fax: 408-551-1805
> Santa Clara University phone: 408-551-7167
> 500 El Camino Real
> Santa Clara CA 95053-0500
> _____________________________________________________________________
> "mir war / als haettest du / einen blick auf mich geworfen / ich mich
> geduckt / sag mir was das war"
> --Wueste by Blixa Bargeld, http://www.neubauten.org/tabula/wueste.php
> >>> Emily Lin <elin at ucmerced dot edu> 05/23/05 3:28 PM >>>
> We'd like to have a search box on our library's home page that will
> search the library catalog, instead of linking off to the catalog's
> page. Would anyone who has implemented this share how you did it?
> <<<
>
> It's not perfect because the first URIs retrieved aren't
> bookmark-able, but here's our form (salt to taste...)
>
> <form method="post" action="http://sculib.scu.edu/search/_";
> name="">
> <select name="searchtype">
> <option value="X"
> selected>Keywords</option>
> <option value="a">Author</option>
> <option value="t">Title</option>
> <option value="d">Subject </option>
> <option value="c">LC Call
> Number</option>
> <option value="g">Gov Doc
> Number</option>
> <option value="i">ISBN/ISSN</option>
> <option value="r">by Course
> name</option>
> <option value="p">by Course
> Instructor</option>
> </select>
> <input type="text" name="searcharg"
size="25"
> maxlength="60">
> <input type="hidden" name="SORT" value="A">
> <input type="image" border="0" name="submit"
> src="images/gifs/templates/search_oscar_red.gif" width="120"
height="20"
> alt="Search OSCAR">
> </form>
>
> HTH,
> David
>
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