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- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:31:50 -0500
- From: "Sara Hannegan" <shannegan at clamsnet dot org>
- Subject: Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
Peggy,
We have the same problem in that the uniform title, tag 240 is the first t
tag indexed thus it shows up on the receipt confusing the patrons. We have
asked the Help Desk if this can be fixed but we do not know the answer yet.
If you have a uniform title and a title proper in the marc record, it should
be searchable with either if they are both indexed. This works for us with
the same monograph.
Sara Hannegan
**********
User Services
Cape Libraries Automated Materials, INC.
508-790-4399 ex 18
shannegan at clamsnet dot org
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record (Peggy Sisselman)
2. RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record (David Ruml)
3. When to Post (Kathleen Olsen)
4. Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record (S. D'Angelico)
5. RE: WAM/ IE question (Mitlin, Laurance R.)
6. RE: When to Post (Mary Paige Smith)
7. Re: When to Post (Sandy Olson)
8. RE: When to Post (David Ruml)
9. RE: When to Post (Seeman, Corey Glenn)
10. RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record (David Ruml)
11. RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record SEE Subject: Title
fields on duedate slips (Ericsson, Paul)
12. Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record (Ann Gilmore)
13. RE: WAM/ IE question (Knox,Sheryl Cormicle)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:25:45 -0500
From: "Peggy Sisselman" <psisselman at poklib dot org>
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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Dear List,
Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand under
the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When you go
to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the 245 field.
A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to say
she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her slip. If
someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking for golden deeds
and never find the book. We tried to search the database by golden deeds
and couldn't even find the book.
Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because if
the object of a library is to help people find things, this is definitely
not working....
Thank you for your help.
Peggy
Peggy Sisselman
Acquisitions/Technical Services
Poughkeepsie Public Library District
psisselman at poklib dot org
845.485.3445 x 3337
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:48:55 -0600
From: "David Ruml" <David dot Ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com>
Subject: RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Message-ID:
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The circ receipt gets title info from the first t-coded tag in the bib
record. We had our 240 tags changed to field group u, so that the 245 would
show up as the first t field.
DAVID E. RUML
Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey
4220 N. Josey Lane
CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
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mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Peggy Sisselman
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:26 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
Dear List,
Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand under
the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When you go
to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the 245 field.
A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to say
she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her slip. If
someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking for golden deeds
and never find the book. We tried to search the database by golden deeds
and couldn't even find the book.
Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because if
the object of a library is to help people find things, this is definitely
not working....
Thank you for your help.
Peggy
Peggy Sisselman
Acquisitions/Technical Services
Poughkeepsie Public Library District
psisselman at poklib dot org
845.485.3445 x 3337
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 12:06:22 -0800
From: "Kathleen Olsen" <ksolsen at kcls dot org>
Subject: When to Post
To: <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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Hi everyone-
I can't find any information in the online manual about this:
How many orders can we place before we have to post?
We migrated to Millenium (Silver) last October but used
Innovative's old acquisitions module 8 years back as a 'stand-alone'
product separate from another vendor's cataloging/circ/serials/ILL
modules. Back then, there was a warning about getting close to the
threshold and needing to post.
Thanks for your help,
kathleen
Kathleen Olsen
Section Supervisor
Selection & Order Dept.
King County Library System
960 Newport Way NW
Issaquah, WA 98027
(425)369-3368
ksolsen at kcls dot org
FAX (425)369-3332
www.kcls.org
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:23:55 -0500
From: "S. D'Angelico" <dangelic at camnet dot org>
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
To: IUG INNOPAC List <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Message-ID: <421CE65B dot 9060601 at camnet dot org>
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This sounds like something our library would like to do. Are there
any issues that have come up because of this change? Also, does this
affect the OPAC display? (When our patrons search by author or title,
they often don't realize that the uniform title is showing in the browse
display - and don't go any further.) Did you change the field group tag
yourself, using Global Update, or did III have to do it?
Thanks for any input.
Stephanie
David Ruml wrote:
>The circ receipt gets title info from the first t-coded tag in the bib
record. We had our 240 tags changed to field group u, so that the 245 would
show up as the first t field.
>
>DAVID E. RUML
>Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
>Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey
>4220 N. Josey Lane
>CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
>
>david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
>
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
>[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Peggy Sisselman
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:26 PM
>To: IUG INNOPAC List
>Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand under
>the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
>
>We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When you go
>to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the 245 field.
>
>A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to say
>she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her slip. If
>someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking for golden deeds
>and never find the book. We tried to search the database by golden deeds
>and couldn't even find the book.
>
>Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because if
>the object of a library is to help people find things, this is definitely
>not working....
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Peggy
>
>Peggy Sisselman
>Acquisitions/Technical Services
>Poughkeepsie Public Library District
>psisselman at poklib dot org
>845.485.3445 x 3337
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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______________________________________________________________
Stephanie D'Angelico, Reference & System Admin. Librarian
Pennsauken Free Public Library
5605 Crescent Blvd.
Pennsauken, NJ 08110
Phone: 856-665-5959 x.18
Fax: 856-486-0142
Email: dangelic at camnet dot org
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:15:03 -0500
From: "Mitlin, Laurance R." <mitlinl at winthrop dot edu>
Subject: RE: WAM/ IE question
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Message-ID:
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We've about given up on IE also, since XP SP2. Netscape 7.2 works well
though.
Larry Mitlin
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|From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
|[
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|Topritzhofer
|Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:58 PM
|To: 'IUG INNOPAC List'
|Subject: RE: WAM/ IE question
|
|Personally, I've given up on "fixing" IE in these situations
|and refer the patron to the Firefox download page.
|
| -Bill
|
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|[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of John Wynstra
|Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 12:43 PM
|To: IUG INNOPAC List
|Subject: WAM/ IE question
|
|I have a patron using IE 6.00.2900 who is having the problem
|of being redirected right back to the authentication screen
|after submitting valid authentication info. He is using a
|cable modem with a popular local ISP from whom I have almost
|no problems with other users.
|
|Most often this problem is solved by having the user change
|their cookie settings. In this case I have had no success
|taking this approach. Are there any other things I should be
|checking at this point?
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:21:05 -0500
From: "Mary Paige Smith" <smithm at nsu dot law dot nova dot edu>
Subject: RE: When to Post
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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Kathy,
The INNOPAC User manual, Page # 103179, says that the maximum number of
entries in each pay file is 2K, and the maximum number in the payment
history file is 10K.
Mary Paige
Mary Paige Smith
Head of Technical Services
Nova Southeastern University
Law Library and Technology Center
3305 College Avenue
Fort Lauderdale, FL 33314
954-262-6213 (voice)
954-262-3840 (fax)
smithm at nsu dot law dot nova dot edu
http://nsulaw.nova.edu/library
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From: Kathleen Olsen [
mailto:ksolsen at kcls dot org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:06 PM
To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
Subject: When to Post
Hi everyone-
I can't find any information in the online manual about this:
How many orders can we place before we have to post?
We migrated to Millenium (Silver) last October but used
Innovative's old acquisitions module 8 years back as a 'stand-alone'
product separate from another vendor's cataloging/circ/serials/ILL
modules. Back then, there was a warning about getting close to the
threshold and needing to post.
Thanks for your help,
kathleen
Kathleen Olsen
Section Supervisor
Selection & Order Dept.
King County Library System
960 Newport Way NW
Issaquah, WA 98027
(425)369-3368
ksolsen at kcls dot org
FAX (425)369-3332
www.kcls.org
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:27:07 -0600
From: "Sandy Olson" <SandyO at uca dot edu>
Subject: Re: When to Post
To: <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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I don't remember how many records, but since we had a crash a few years
back, we post at the end of each day.
Only takes a few minutes, and we don't have to worry about losing
information, which we did with the crash.
Sandy
Sandra L Olson
Acquisitions Supervisor
ALA/LSSIRT Steering Committee Member
Torreyson Library
University of Central Arkansas
201 Donaghey Avenue
Conway, AR 72035
Voice: (501) 450-5210
FAX: (501) 450-3234
SandyO at uca dot edu
"Change your thoughts and you change the world."
Harold R. McAlindon, Writer
>>> ksolsen at kcls dot org 2/23/2005 2:06:22 PM >>>
Hi everyone-
I can't find any information in the online manual about this:
How many orders can we place before we have to post?
We migrated to Millenium (Silver) last October but used
Innovative's old acquisitions module 8 years back as a 'stand-alone'
product separate from another vendor's cataloging/circ/serials/ILL
modules. Back then, there was a warning about getting close to the
threshold and needing to post.
Thanks for your help,
kathleen
Kathleen Olsen
Section Supervisor
Selection & Order Dept.
King County Library System
960 Newport Way NW
Issaquah, WA 98027
(425)369-3368
ksolsen at kcls dot org
FAX (425)369-3332
www.kcls.org
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:41:05 -0600
From: "David Ruml" <David dot Ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com>
Subject: RE: When to Post
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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We got into the habit of posting each invoice as we received it, since we
were having weird issues (now fixed) and I didn't want too much in the
payfiles if the problem arose again. So we pay the invoice, post it,
receive the items, then go on to the next invoice.
DAVID E. RUML
Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey
4220 N. Josey Lane
CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
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From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Sandy Olson
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:27 PM
To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
Subject: Re: When to Post
I don't remember how many records, but since we had a crash a few years
back, we post at the end of each day.
Only takes a few minutes, and we don't have to worry about losing
information, which we did with the crash.
Sandy
Sandra L Olson
Acquisitions Supervisor
ALA/LSSIRT Steering Committee Member
Torreyson Library
University of Central Arkansas
201 Donaghey Avenue
Conway, AR 72035
Voice: (501) 450-5210
FAX: (501) 450-3234
SandyO at uca dot edu
"Change your thoughts and you change the world."
Harold R. McAlindon, Writer
>>> ksolsen at kcls dot org 2/23/2005 2:06:22 PM >>>
Hi everyone-
I can't find any information in the online manual about this:
How many orders can we place before we have to post?
We migrated to Millenium (Silver) last October but used
Innovative's old acquisitions module 8 years back as a 'stand-alone'
product separate from another vendor's cataloging/circ/serials/ILL
modules. Back then, there was a warning about getting close to the
threshold and needing to post.
Thanks for your help,
kathleen
Kathleen Olsen
Section Supervisor
Selection & Order Dept.
King County Library System
960 Newport Way NW
Issaquah, WA 98027
(425)369-3368
ksolsen at kcls dot org
FAX (425)369-3332
www.kcls.org
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:42:37 -0500
From: "Seeman, Corey Glenn" <CSeeman at UTNet dot UToledo dot Edu>
Subject: RE: When to Post
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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By posting on a regular basis, you also have more accurate financial figures
in the reports. We do not want alot of orders that have not been posted
because that gives us the appearance of having more money than we really
have.
You can see how many encumberances you have to post under in the
Acquisitions/Serials Status line under Management Information (users manual
page # 101562)
Best -- Corey
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[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Sandy Olson
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:27 PM
To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
Subject: Re: When to Post
I don't remember how many records, but since we had a crash a few years
back, we post at the end of each day.
Only takes a few minutes, and we don't have to worry about losing
information, which we did with the crash.
Sandy
Sandra L Olson
Acquisitions Supervisor
ALA/LSSIRT Steering Committee Member
Torreyson Library
University of Central Arkansas
201 Donaghey Avenue
Conway, AR 72035
Voice: (501) 450-5210
FAX: (501) 450-3234
SandyO at uca dot edu
"Change your thoughts and you change the world."
Harold R. McAlindon, Writer
>>> ksolsen at kcls dot org 2/23/2005 2:06:22 PM >>>
Hi everyone-
I can't find any information in the online manual about this:
How many orders can we place before we have to post?
We migrated to Millenium (Silver) last October but used
Innovative's old acquisitions module 8 years back as a 'stand-alone'
product separate from another vendor's cataloging/circ/serials/ILL
modules. Back then, there was a warning about getting close to the
threshold and needing to post.
Thanks for your help,
kathleen
Kathleen Olsen
Section Supervisor
Selection & Order Dept.
King County Library System
960 Newport Way NW
Issaquah, WA 98027
(425)369-3368
ksolsen at kcls dot org
FAX (425)369-3332
www.kcls.org
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:44:26 -0600
From: "David Ruml" <David dot Ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com>
Subject: RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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I haven't heard of any issues that arose from our decision to do this. It
definitely fixed the Circ receipt problem. It has been a few years, but I
believe III went into our settings and changed the 240 to register as a u
instead of a t. This was in the field group listing, not the search index
settings. I then had to go in and global update all of our existing 240s to
u.
DAVID E. RUML
Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey
4220 N. Josey Lane
CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
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From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of S. D'Angelico
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:24 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
This sounds like something our library would like to do. Are there
any issues that have come up because of this change? Also, does this
affect the OPAC display? (When our patrons search by author or title,
they often don't realize that the uniform title is showing in the browse
display - and don't go any further.) Did you change the field group tag
yourself, using Global Update, or did III have to do it?
Thanks for any input.
Stephanie
David Ruml wrote:
>The circ receipt gets title info from the first t-coded tag in the bib
record. We had our 240 tags changed to field group u, so that the 245 would
show up as the first t field.
>
>DAVID E. RUML
>Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
>Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey
>4220 N. Josey Lane
>CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
>
>david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
>
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
>[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Peggy Sisselman
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:26 PM
>To: IUG INNOPAC List
>Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
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>Dear List,
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>Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand under
>the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
>
>We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When you go
>to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the 245 field.
>
>A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to say
>she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her slip. If
>someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking for golden deeds
>and never find the book. We tried to search the database by golden deeds
>and couldn't even find the book.
>
>Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because if
>the object of a library is to help people find things, this is definitely
>not working....
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Peggy
>
>Peggy Sisselman
>Acquisitions/Technical Services
>Poughkeepsie Public Library District
>psisselman at poklib dot org
>845.485.3445 x 3337
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:49:15 -0500
From: "Ericsson, Paul" <PEricsson at onconcord dot com>
Subject: RE: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record SEE Subject: Title
fields on duedate slips
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Stephanie, Peggy & colleagues --
We had this same problem - it appears to be a typical III record mapping
from the MARC record into the III field group tags.
If you search the archive for a posting by me last autumn with the
Subject: "Title fields on duedate slips" you will find some excellent
replies by others on the list, with specific information about indexing,
OPAC displays, and other "ripples in the pond".
We had a bit of a skirmish with getting this call assigned to the
correct team, but Monica Ertel at III was wonderful in assisting us, and
once our call got in the right place, the work was started, and
badda-bing, all done!
The problem of 240 fields appearing on duedate slips affects a small
percentage of our materials, but what a major headache and PR problem
with patrons.
Paul
___________________________________________
Paul Ericsson
Adult Services Supervisor / Automation Coordinator
Concord Public Library
http://www.onconcord.com
45 Green St. Concord, NH 03301 603 230-3697
pericsson at onconcord dot com
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[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org] On Behalf Of S. D'Angelico
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:24 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
This sounds like something our library would like to do. Are there
any issues that have come up because of this change? Also, does this
affect the OPAC display? (When our patrons search by author or title,
they often don't realize that the uniform title is showing in the browse
display - and don't go any further.) Did you change the field group tag
yourself, using Global Update, or did III have to do it?
Thanks for any input.
Stephanie
David Ruml wrote:
>The circ receipt gets title info from the first t-coded tag in the bib
record. We had our 240 tags changed to field group u, so that the 245
would show up as the first t field.
>
>DAVID E. RUML
>Bibliographic Database and Systems Admin.
>Carrollton Public Library at Hebron & Josey 4220 N. Josey Lane
>CARROLLTON, TEXAS 75010
>
>david dot ruml at cityofcarrollton dot com
>
http://www.cityofcarrollton.com/library
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
>[
mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Peggy Sisselman
>Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:26 PM
>To: IUG INNOPAC List
>Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand
>under the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
>
>We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When
>you go to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the
245 field.
>
>A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to
>say she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her
>slip. If someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking
>for golden deeds and never find the book. We tried to search the
>database by golden deeds and couldn't even find the book.
>
>Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because
>if the object of a library is to help people find things, this is
>definitely not working....
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Peggy
>
>Peggy Sisselman
>Acquisitions/Technical Services
>Poughkeepsie Public Library District
>psisselman at poklib dot org
>845.485.3445 x 3337
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Free Public Library
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Pennsauken, NJ 08110
Phone: 856-665-5959 x.18
Fax: 856-486-0142
Email: dangelic at camnet dot org
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:51:23 -0600
From: "Ann Gilmore" <anng at mail dot sgcl dot org>
Subject: Re: 240 and 245 fields in MARC record
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We simply move the 240 record to the 246 field. This enables the patron to
find the title as it is listed on the book, but also gives the option of
finding it under the former title.
Ann Gilmore
Manager, Technical Services Dept.
Springfield-Greene County Library
Springfield, MO
417-874-8120 Ext. 236
anng at mail dot sgcl dot org
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From: "Peggy Sisselman" <psisselman at poklib dot org>
Reply-To: IUG INNOPAC List <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 14:25:45 -0500
>Dear List,
>
>Here is a problem we have. A book was first published in New Zealand under
>the title "Golden deeds". This title appears in the 240 field.
>
>We have the US published book, title is "Strength of the sun." When you go
>to the shelf this is the title you see. This title is in the 245 field.
>
>A patron brings home her receipt from the library and returns here to say
>she does not have "Golden deeds" but that is what appears on her slip. If
>someone were to place a hold on this book, we'd be looking for golden deeds
>and never find the book. We tried to search the database by golden deeds
>and couldn't even find the book.
>
>Please can someone tell me how we can do something about this. Because if
>the object of a library is to help people find things, this is definitely
>not working....
>
>Thank you for your help.
>
>Peggy
>
>Peggy Sisselman
>Acquisitions/Technical Services
>Poughkeepsie Public Library District
>psisselman at poklib dot org
>845.485.3445 x 3337
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 15:54:23 -0500
From: "Knox,Sheryl Cormicle" <knoxs at cadl dot org>
Subject: RE: WAM/ IE question
To: "IUG INNOPAC List" <innopac at innopacusers dot org>
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Sounds like it may be the Content Advisor problem. Here's our help page on
this topic:
http://www.cadl.org/help/iehelp.htm
We've also run into a Comcast user who was using some kind of Comcast filter
tool that required adjustment to the "adult" level to work.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Sheryl Cormicle Knox
Technology Director
Capital Area District Library
517.367.6347
www.cadl.org
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mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of John Wynstra
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:43 PM
To: IUG INNOPAC List
Subject: WAM/ IE question
I have a patron using IE 6.00.2900 who is having the problem of being
redirected right back to the authentication screen after submitting
valid authentication info. He is using a cable modem with a popular
local ISP from whom I have almost no problems with other users.
Most often this problem is solved by having the user change their cookie
settings. In this case I have had no success taking this approach. Are
there any other things I should be checking at this point?
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John Wynstra
Library Information Systems Specialist
Rod Library
University of Northern Iowa
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
wynstra at uni dot edu
(319)273-3619
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