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You can search for the presence or absence of a field easily, using equals nothing and does not equal nothing, and it doesn't matter if you use a field group tag or a MARC tag.

Here's a screenshot of a search for records without a 505 field:
http://www.noblenet.org/swapshop/lists/shortstories.htm

zoltan dot tomory at mobot dot org wrote:

I thought we did not have the boolean "not" functionality. I also thought we could not use the tag number itself as the selection
critereon (contents of tag legal).
Otherwise a pseudocode phrasing something like:

select (index=1 or index=0) not tag#=505 (from bib) <-- really loosely
phrased logic does not hold,
just
to give the idea

THE way you can accomplish it presently is to generate two reports output to
email. (1) the set of all bibs (2) the set of bibs having tag 505. Turn them
into files saving from the email, then process using the language of your
choice (e.g. pascal, perl, C, etc.).

If it is important enough I could do the processing as a project for cash,
but I bet you can find a person who can write simple programs locally. Such
a person may even deny that they can program & require coaxing. Anyone who
has had a single course in computer programming can do it, provided the
library has or can buy a copy of the language that the programmer is
familiar with. Some languages are available for free.

If you can't find one, I'm serious about offering to freelance. Email me
directly if you wish to discuss terms.

Good luck,

Zoltan Tomory
tclan at mindspring dot com (this is not my work email address)


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It is my sincere hope that there is some guru out there who can say that
Millennium does have the syntax to accomplish the search & demonstrate the
proper phrasing to accomplish it.
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functionality hopefully different for those using the SQL version of the
product.
depends on how the tables are built, really.


-----Original Message-----

Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 14:39:54 -0700
From: "Harding, Susan" <SHarding at clark dot edu>
Subject: RE: Create-List challenged
To: <waage at macalester dot edu>, "IUG INNOPAC List"
<innopac at innopacusers dot org>
Message-ID: <B52C1E7AE3795B499FF6DD3C957E762E2DCE55 at odin dot clark dot edu>
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Steve,

Try BIBLIOGRAPHIC MARC Tag 505 All fields don't have "505"

Good luck.

Susie Harding, Library Specialist I
Lewis D. Cannell Library
Clark College
1800 E. McLoughlin Blvd.
Vancouver, Wa 98663
(360) 992-2255
sharding at clark dot edu <mailto:sharding at clark dot edu> Fax: (360) 992-2869

-----Original Message-----
From: innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org
[mailto:innopac-bounces at innopacusers dot org]On Behalf Of Steve Waage
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 2:14 PM
To: innopac at innopacusers dot org
Subject: Create-List challenged


Innos,
I'm trying to run a list that includes only ...

BIBs that do not have a 505 tag.

... I've used up all my tricks like ...

MARC tag 505 < 0 (zero)
MARC tag 505 = "" (the null set)

... with no luck ... I still find bibs with 505s running a test
statement against the first list.

Any suggestions ?


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