RE: IUG West AND East?

[Steve Espinoza <espinoza@xxxxxxxxxx>]

If cost is the reason why we don't "do" San Francisco, would
planners/membership consider a "dark day" so the tourist in most (all?) of
us would have a built-in day.  Maybe a Saturday, Monday, Tuesday format.
-- Steve Espinoza


-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine Halcrow [mailto:khalcrow@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 12:07 PM
To: innopac@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IUG West AND East?


A sentiment I heard and agreed with several times at the conference! so much
more fun to 'do' San Fran! Kate Halcrow Citrus College

At 11:43 AM 4/30/03 -0700, you wrote:
>I think that it would be a mistake to split the IUG annual meeting into
>East Coast and West Coast. The cost of hotels depends more on the size of 
>the city than whether it is on the East Coast or West Coast. The cost of 
>airline travel is NOT a linear function depending on distance traveled. 
>Often, because of airline competition, the cost of flying to major hub 
>cities on the two coasts is cheaper or almost as cheap as flying to a city 
>that is on "your" coast--especially if you opt for an intermediate stop 
>(since coast-to-coast non-stop flights tend to be more expensive).
>
>As for the meeting on the West Coast, can't we go to San Francisco even
>though it costs a little more for hotel rooms? My intent is not to offend 
>anyone, but let's face it: meeting in places like San Jose, Santa Clara, 
>and Oakland (there's no there there) are not very exciting--especially when

>compared to The City--the heart of the Golden West. Meeting in San 
>Francisco would still allow people to avail themselves of cheaper flights 
>into and out of the Oakland Airport, since there is a BART train station at

>the Oakland airport that takes you inexpensively to downtown San Francisco 
>in about 40 minutes.
>
>Yes, I live in San Francisco (you can probably tell that from my e-mail
>address), but I'm not too biased. I hope I've not offended East Bay and 
>South Bay folks.
>
>
>
>
>At 11:02 AM 4/30/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>>I know it's much further from the East Coast to the West Coast than 
>>the other way around :-)
>>
>>Seriously, add up your total bill for the conference, including 
>>travel, hotel, meals, the conference itself, and miscellaneous. Assume 
>>your air tickets were purchased well in advance.
>>
>>Now what if the conference were closer? How much would you save on air 
>>travel? What percentage of your total cost would be saved? Not much?
>>
>>Now assume a conference half as large, with fewer economies of scale 
>>for meeting rooms, hotel rooms, etc. So some fees would be higher.
>>
>>Seems to me like false economy.
>>
>>Besides, you wouldn't get as many vendors there at both shows...
>>
>>Regards,
>>....Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.
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Katherine Halcrow
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