Ang: Re: Ang: RE: Millennium Advanced Searching

[agneta.walton@xxxxxxxxxx]

Thank you, Jeffrey, this is just my point! I believe you can tell your
students to use AND in cases like this but I don't think we can get all our
users to see the difference and do the right choice.

There is another difficulty in Swedish libraries: you have to tell the
users to type AND in English!

So for the time being I still prefer old keyword search.

Agneta Walton



                                                                                                              
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The reason your results look the way they do is that AVS's default
operator is ADJ.  (Adjacent).  This will cause the results you
received.  If you had typed "and" between the words you "should"
have receive the equally amounts of entries regardless of the order
of the words.

Hope this helps.

Jeffrey A. Trimble
Systems/Catalog Librarian
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, OH
jtrimble@xxxxxxxxxx
(330) 742-2483


At 08:50 AM 6/25/2002 +0200, you wrote:

>Hello all,
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>I am not at all sure about the AVS search compared to keyword search. I am
>working at a public library with all sorts of users, from children to old
>age pensioners, and we can't foresee how they are going do do their
>searches. It is impossible to give all sorts of instructions to everyone.
>If there are too many they will not be read.
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>I did some searches in Christopher's catalogue:
>1) Type "policy social" and you get 75 records. Type "social policy" and
>you get 2287 records.
>2) Type "policy government" = 9 records, "government policy" = 8164
>records.
>3) Type "world war II" = 1431 records, "second world war" = 386 records,
>"world war 2" = 46 records.
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>Does that not bother anyone? It bothers me.
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>Agneta Walton
>Gothenburg Public Library, Sweden
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>Our AVS search screen is at:
>http://bianca.penlib.du.edu/search~S2/Y#X
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>Distinctive features:
>Notice the added pull-down menu choices: Publication Type, Government
>Document (could this have anything to do with the fact that I am a
>govdocs librarian???) and Conference.
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>Christopher C. Brown
>Reference Librarian / Government Documents Librarian
>Penrose Library; University of Denver
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>[mailto:innopac-admin@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alan Bartlett
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>Hi,
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>       We are in the process of moving to Millennium after using the
>character-based INNOPAC for 10 years.  I interested in viewing library
>catalogs using the Advanced Search feature for keyword.  Can I have a
>few
>URLS from those who are using Advanced Searching?
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>       Could you briefly share what you like and don't like about it?
>Anybody
>move to advanced searching and wish they hadn't?
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>       Thanks so much,
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>       Alan E. Bartlett
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Jeffrey A. Trimble
Systems/Catalog Librarian
Youngstown State University
Youngstown, OH
jtrimble@xxxxxxxxxx
(330) 742-2483

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