RE: Patron types for distance students?

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 09:51:58 -0400
From: Peggy Richard <richardp@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Patron types for distance students?

Title: RE: Patron types for distance students?

Michael-- Thanks for your speedy reply. I know this is asking a lot, but could you tell me a little more about how the rules for determining the ptype from your student enrollment is derived? I realize that most data elements might be unique to your institution, but I'm becoming desperate.

Thanks again.

Peggy
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From: Michael Wood [mailto:mikewood@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:08 PM
To: innopac@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Patron types for distance students?

Peggy
we have a large distance ed component (11,500 students
out of 29,000 roughly) and we use ptypes to
distinguish local, State, National and international
off-campus students in each of
-undergrads,
-honours
-course work post-grads and
-research post-grads categories.

We have the advantage of daily patron downloads from
the University's student database.

The rules for deriving the ptype from the students
enrollment are complicated because yes, we have
students who take a mixture of on- and off-campus units
during a semester. Some students are also enrolled
simultaneously in two different courses.

We want to distinguish between each of these
groups however so we can target the service.
We give the different levels of student,
as above, different length loan
periods.

We also give differently located students
(local,national, international) different lengths
of time to allow for mailing the books to and fro.

So we have loan rule determiner rules for each
combination of these parameters.

However once the rules are in place and the kinks
ironed out it seems to work ok.

This year we went with a new student system and
it took some months to get the interface programmed
and the rules ironed out. But we hope that is a
once in a decade event.

Michael
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Michael Wood                          mikewood@xxxxxxxxxx
Systems, Deakin University Library    phone: +61 3 5227 8231
Geelong, Victoria 3217 Australia      fax:   +61 3 5227 8000
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 16:47:52 -0400
From: Peggy Richard <richardp@xxxxxxxxxx>

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 I've run across a problem that is probably going to become m
 ore and more
 common in the future for our institution, and probably other
 s as well. We
 already have a very active (world-wide) distance education p
 rogram, and have
 ptypes set up for students participating in these programs.
 Their
 individual patron records also have fields which include the
 ir cohort code,
 college, degree, and major. (In addition, we have an entire
 distance
 library department within the main library that serves the i
 nformation needs
 of these students.)

 Recently, we've encountered students that are physically loc
 al students, but
 they may take one or two distance or on-line classes. So th
 ey are really
 "hybrids". And this status could change from semester to se
 mester.

 Since I'm still ironing out the problems encountered in esta
 blishing a
 weekly load of records from our Banner system, I'm not looki
 ng for any new
 problems to take on. However, this looks like it's going to
 quickly become
 problematic. (We also have 12 registration periods each year
 , and students
 can be simultaneously registered in more than one cycle.)

 I'm beginning to think that maybe I should just have generic
 ptypes of
 graduate students and undergraduate students. Maybe a more
 elaborate ptype
 scheme is asking for trouble?

 Has anyone else encountered these kind of problems with ptyp
 es and trying to
 establish accurate statistics?

 Thanks.

 Peggy Richard
 Assistant University Librarian for Systems
 Nova Southeastern University
 Shepard Broad Law Center, Law Library & Technology Center
 3305 College Avenue
 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33314
 954-262-4648
 800-541-6682 ext. 4648
 fax 954-262-3840
 prichard@xxxxxxxxxx


 Peggy Richard
 Assistant University Librarian for Systems
 Nova Southeastern University
 Shepard Broad Law Center, Law Library & Technology Center
 3305 College Avenue
 Fort Lauderdale, FL 33314
 954-262-4648
 800-541-6682 ext. 4648
 fax 954-262-3840
 prichard@xxxxxxxxxx


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 probably going to become more and more common in the future
 for our =
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 active (world-wide) distance education program, and have pty
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 for students participating in these programs.  Their in
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 patron records also have fields which include their cohort c
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 college, degree, and major.  (In addition, we have an e
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 distance library department within the main library that ser
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 information needs of these students.) 

 Recently, we've encountered
 students =
 that are physically local students, but they may take one or
 two =
 distance or on-line classes.  So they are really =
 "hybrids".  And this status could change from
 semester =
 to semester.  

 Since I'm still ironing out
 the =
 problems encountered in establishing a weekly load of record
 s from our =
 Banner system, I'm not looking for any new problems to take
 on.  =
 However, this looks like it's going to quickly become proble
 matic. (We =
 also have 12 registration periods each year, and students ca
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 simultaneously registered in more than one cycle.)

 I'm beginning to think that
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 students.  Maybe a more elaborate ptype scheme is askin
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 trouble?

 Has anyone else encountered
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 statistics?
 

 Thanks.
 

 Peggy Richard
 Assistant University Libr
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 Systems
 Nova Southeastern Univers
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 Shepard Broad Law Center,
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 Library & Technology Center
 3305 College Avenue
 Fort Lauderdale, FL 
 =
 33314
 954-262-4648
 800-541-6682  ext. 4
 648
 fax 954-262-3840
 prichard@xxxxxxxxxx
 
 

 Peggy Richard
 Assistant University Libr
 arian for =
 Systems
 Nova Southeastern Univers
 ity
 Shepard Broad Law Center,
 Law =
 Library & Technology Center
 3305 College Avenue
 Fort Lauderdale, FL 
 =
 33314
 954-262-4648
 800-541-6682  ext. 4
 648
 fax 954-262-3840
 prichard@xxxxxxxxxx
 

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