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  1. Renee Brumett
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  3. Tuesday, December 11 2018, 01:19 PM
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I'm hoping someone will have a brilliant idea I can use -- or at least spark a brilliant idea. If you have any suggestions, please don't hesitate to share, even if you know it's not a perfect solution.

We're a 12-location public library and we are overhauling how we arrange and categorize our materials. We have moved to a mashup of Dewey call numbers and BISAC-like subject categories. We have tackled lots of hurdles but the remaining one is Paging Slips and I just can't come up with a good solution.

We still use Dewey numbers in the call number field and on our spine labels, but nonfiction materials are arranged on the shelf first by subject category (Art, Travel, Gardening, etc.) and then by Dewey within that section. I can't figure out a way to print the subject category on the paging slips, so our pages spend a lot of extra time looking for materials. They don't necessarily know what section the item is in just based upon Dewey and title.

We put the subject category name in multiple places in Sierra, but nowhere I can pull from on a paging slip, even using print templates. It's listed in a local subject heading field in the bib, in a custom variable length field in the item record, and in the label loc field in the item record.

Ideally we'd love to move to paperless paging anyway and just take a phone or tablet to the stacks. We have Mobile Worklists, but that doesn't run the paging process. We have Sierra Web, but that's not optimized for a touchscreen -- you can run notices from it, but you can't see any of the fields in question because you have to right click to get to the item record from the table.

A few other details -- we primarily use bib-level holds but we also run item and Inn-reach paging lists. We use paging priority to manage how things are paged at our multiple branches. And I don't really mess with SQL, but if anyone has brilliant ideas using that, I have people that do. I'm just not sure if you can manage the paging priority with what you can get through SQL. We're on Sierra 4.2.

Thanks for any and all suggestions!
Renee

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HI Renee,

There were 2 presentations last April at the IUG Meeting in Orlando. One group completely bypassed the existing Sierra paging system and created their own because they were a library with a single branch and not part of a consortium. They ended up with a slick app for a smartphone.

A second group had to stay within the Sierra paging system because they were part of a large city wide consortium (greater Helsinki) but they were unhappy with the printed paging lists. The only way to get paging information out of Sierra at this time is to run the notices, send the paging lists to an 'email printer' and then create a software program that will read those emails, sort them and place them in a database. This group also has a slick smartphone app that allows their staff to work without paper lists at all.

Finally, at my library I have an experimental program that intercepts 'email printer' paging lists ala the second group's presentation. We are a small library in a consortium so must stick with Sierra paging. My program applies custom sort to the emails that it receives and formats them according to our rules and prints them out of an MS Word template. We have many different locations and call number formats and I sort the page requests so that staff can at least follow a logical path through the library collecting items. I can share this code with you but you will need a C# programmer to make the changes to suit your library.

Yours,

Andy Helck
Wilkinson Public Library


ps if you need help I can probably find those 2 presentations on the IUG website for you.

ahelck@telluridelibrary.org
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Thanks so much for the reply Andy. I had a colleague go to the first presentation you mentioned and I got the info from that one, but I don't think that would work great for us because of our multiple branches.

As far as your program, is what you're intercepting still the same info that would appear on a traditional paging slip? You're just using your program to sort/display it in a different way? My problem would be actually getting the right info from bib and/or item record because it doesn't print using Sierra's default template and the necessary fields aren't in the print templates data library.

Renee

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Hi Renee,

The first presentation might well apply to your case if in fact you and your 12 branches are a stand alone system without having to take into account a larger consortium of libraries that use traditional paging. I will send you contact information for the team that presented via email.

As for my program, it does work directly from the un-Print-Templated paging notices. These are in plain ASCII text but are still kind of pain to decode as there are truncated fields, line breaks etc that make the data a bit less than perfectly easy to parse. The team from Finland used a different approach -- they set up their paging lists with Print Templates and were able to access more fields. The emails that are generated from print templates however can only be parsed using OCR (optical character recognition) software, which they had good success with. Indeed I just looked again and it seems like emails from the print template contain embedded images or text rather than HTML source that could be parsed...

As for my program, you are correct it does not reference any information other than the pretty barebones stuff contained in the un-templated notices. Of course with a bit of work it could be extended to get that information using Sierra DNA queries or the Item/Bib APIs. Again that would be a fair amount of work. I am thinking that if our situation corresponds at all with the first presentation, there system is already accessing bib and item information and might be the way to go, especially as they already have created a phone app.

best of luck,

Andy

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